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| Archive through January 13, 2003 | 50 | 01/13 08:55am |
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You need to move to San Diego, Jason. |
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So who from SD is coming up to Tijuana's on Wednesday? Last week a bunch of you came up and it rocked... |
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It's Ladies Night at the Firehouse tonight. So far I've got Susan Bird and Shawna Hopkins to DJ for sure, maybe Amy Johnson. It should be a very diverse evening of music for all. |
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When is Lisa Dj-ing?? |
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I believe Lisa is supposed to be DJing at Cafe Savoy the week after the Lindy Binge. |
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so was Amy any good? |
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oh. k. |
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Yeah, that's the date. I'm gonna be busting out the super rare vinyl collection and spotlighting bands that actually played in Harlem during the 30's...So you'd better go! |
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awwwww yeah... Just don't anyone touch her records or ask stupid questions...Lisa's not going to be around long and doesn't have to be nice! |
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hehe...You tell 'em sister. |
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someone email me and remind me before lisa DJs, I wanna hear this (and say bye, of course) |
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I'll try to remember, Julius. |
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I just wanted everyone to know how much fun I had DJing with Dennis last night! I think we finally achieved the "variety" of music that I had envisioned for the NEW Firehouse, some fast, some slow, some old, some new, and no "sleepy" songs. One observation: I noticed at the Firehouse last night that the UCSD crowd danced mostly to the slow songs and sat out the fast songs. And yet at Cafe Savoy, the new, young dancers there (anyone under 25 is young to me) dance mostly to the fast songs and sit out the slow songs. Why the disparity amongst the same age group? Nachoman, as the most vocal representative of the UCSD clan, I'm calling you out to answer this quandary. |
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I had fun. Lots of fun music. |
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I think I have one possible answer to this question: The beginners at Cafe savoy often are not doing any recognizable form of swing to the faster songs, or they are doing some semblence of East Coast Swing. They are just throwing each other around, while the UCSD crowd is getting better and better at Lindy Hop. I'm sure everyone will agree that it's a little more difficult. Give them a little longer and they'll be busting out at whatever you throw at them!! PS - The music was great last night for the last hour. That's when I got there. It was so fun! |
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You're right, Chance, most kids at the Cafe aren't doing Lindy, but they sure are having a heckuva lot of fun dancing. In many ways, I think those "wild" newbies embody the spirit of Lindy much more than many polished, edge-free (I just made up that word!) dancers. |
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What about "this" UCSD student? I gots no edge or any more polish... i'm sure i fell down at least 10 times last night... i rock. And by the way... why am i now associated as "westie David" instead of UCSDavid... i mean... "Screw you guys i'm going westie" was a screenname that only last like... 3 days. |
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Meeshi - "polished" and "edge-free". They are not synonomous. There was a post on JJ that summed it up very well. "Is it raw or just sloppy?" "Is it clean or just soulless?" Who is any one person to decide. I've seen very polished dancers who have more edge than some raw dancers. And I've seen raw dancers that just looked like they were falling down ten times. I see the UCSD students having tons of fun dancing to whatever they choose to dance to. What is the spirit of Lindy to you? To me it is creativity, emotion, energy, pushing your limits, movement, togetherness and connection, etc. I think to embody the spirit of Lindy you need to be doing Lindy. I can do Salsa or Balboa or Shag or dancing my head of in a rock concert somewhere with all of the qualities I listed above, but I don't see how that would be the spirit of Lindy. A similar spirit for sure but... |
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Well, I think possibly a more accurate explanation as to the difference in newbies at Cafe Savoy and the Firehouse is that beginners at Cafe Savoy have only the "before the dance" free lesson to go off of for the evening, whereas the UCSD Firehouse beginners are taking actual lessons on a regular basis from Tan. |
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Points well taken, Chance and Jeff. I have to be careful what I say on this forum, because I didn't mean for my words to offend anyone, particularly the UCSD dancers who have supported the Firehouse from the day it opened. But... I really want to encourage the UCSD dancers (and other "groove" regulars) at the Firehouse to get up and try dancing to the fast music. I know it's not easy, and you may not be able to do more than a couple swing outs, but I think when you give it a shot, you'll see just how much fun it really is. Take it from me, the "godfather" of SD groove. For a couple years, I exclusively danced to groove music, because, honestly, it was safe, familiar, and I was good at it. I really didn't see the point in dancing fast and getting sweaty. But then I watched Ken Burn's "Jazz" series and witnessed the original "spirit of Lindy" and how raw, wild, and subversive Lindy Hop was when it was first came out. Can you imagine the horrified looks of the adults in the 1930's who had grown up doing slow waltzes and foxtrots to see their kids jumping, flailing and flipping to this wild, crazy fast jazz music? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt if most Lindy Hoppers of the 30's were overly concerned about finding the right connection, creating beautiful body lines or executing a perfectly balanced turn. I think they just enjoyed kicking, jumping and stomping to the music (with or without a partner), because hot jazz music moved them. That's where the "Spirit of Lindy" lies for me. It's not necessarily in the style or steps of the Lindy dance (smooth-style, pseudo-Savoy-style, you-name-it), but in the inherent raw and wild energy that hot jazz music brings out of dancers. At the Lindy Binge, when Peter Loggins and the tap dancers went out in the jam circle and improvised solos, that's Lindy to me and completely inbued with the "spirit of Lindy" even though they weren't doing Lindy steps or even partner dancing. I just think sometimes we, dancers, obsess too much on the techniques of the dance that we forget to just listen to the music and DANCE! So next time you hear a cookin' hot jazz tune that's too fast for you to dance, I'm inviting all you groovesters to stand up, close your eyes, clap your hands, tap your feet, and let the "spirit of Lindy" moooooove your soul. Hallelujah, praise to Louis! The most Irreverent Meeshi signing off. |
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word. it was weird, after the binge, i couldn't dance to "groove" music anymore at lindygroove. i felt strangely constrained by the music into being relaxed, but it wasn't what i wanted at all. |
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Yah, i can't seem to groove anymore either. It just seems so constraining, meticulated. Too much thought and too little bursts of energy and fun. I've gotten really into hot jazz... it gets your feet kickin' and your heart pounding, and you just want to run around with joy. its rad. |
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Versatility, boys, that's the ticket! Keeps my mercurial mind satiated. Now back to the nyquil...sniff, cough, sneeze. |
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Same here. I think one of the problems has to do with something I said in a post a few weeks ago: There is not much groove music that is worth dancing to. Oscar Peterson, Gene Harris, late Count Basie, etc. are completely awesome and fun to dance to. But when those guys get old, the groove DJ's are forced to search for songs with a thick bass to fill the appetite of Groove dancers. Unfortunately, most of those songs are not made for dancing, and are not dance-worthy. They were all created for people who sit around tables and in booths and just watch and listen, as opposed to music from an era where the band leaders made arrangements for jumpin' dance floors. Anyone who thinks that that doesn't affect the nature of the music is not being reasonable. |
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Although, I don't know about David. He was doing some pretty smooth WC the other night to MJ. |
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You should have seen David's body roles that night too. |
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"Body roles"? Does David's body play different roles at different times? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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