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I'm struggling a bit on how to keep my djing interesting, not only to everyone else, but to me. If I can't keep it interesting to me, I'll stop doing it. I'm always looking for/buying/listening to new music, and thats the main thing that keeps it interesting to me, but that's getting less rewarding as it gets harder to find good new (to me) music. And I love the music, but I get bored of some of the songs earlier than many of you probably do. For one, I've already listened to it numerous times before anyone else hears it the first time, and not everyone comes to every minute of every set I play. But I do. As much as people seem to love certain favorites, I think I get the most compliments when I first play a bunch of good new stuff mixed in with the pop favorites. And it gets really tough to keep finding good new songs. Of course, when I play, its most interesting to mix up the tempos and the types of music, but it can be easy to get stuck in a rut. To keep things interesting to me, I make compilations, play sets of songs in a theme (like food, summer, or sex), think of simple contests, feature certain CDs or artists, etc. But I'm getting bored again. I'm thinking of doing a few theme nights. One theme would be to play a night of jazz/blues standards. A standard is a song that has been covered over and over by other artists. I'd play standards like "Night Train", "Corner Pocket", "Good Rockin Tonight", "C-Jam Blues", "Blue Skies", "Jersey Bounce", "Flat Foot Floogie", "Route 66", "Stomping at the Savoy", etc. I play lots of these anyway, but this would be a night consisting entirely of standards, some by the original artists, some covers. I might plan another swing music evaluation night soon. I might play more obscure songs, even if they aren't as good. I think I'm going to dig out some neo-swing songs I haven't played for a while. I might play a Latin tune once in a while, or a Waltz. Hmmmmm. Maybe I'll play a night of only Big Band. Or a night of R&B, jump blues and Rock and roll tunes from the 50's. I'll think of ways to give away some more CDs, too. I should remind myself to call a "Shim-sham" occasionally. Or a steal, although the last couple times I tried, no one stayed out of the dance in order to steal in. Any other suggestions? |
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I've been very impressed of late with the broad variety of music you play. Theme nights? Perhaps theme hours are better to allow more variety across the evening. A standards night would be fun though. Exhausting too. |
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Yeah, but a theme hour isn't much of a personal challenge, but a theme night might be. And it keeps it more interesting for me to have it be more of a challenge. |
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I think lesser intervals of themes would be more tolerable. Otherwise, you'd be sure to keep people away for entire nights. I'd hate to miss an entire night of dancing just cause I don't feel like adhering to one common theme with every single song played in an evening. It might be more of a personal challenge to you as a dj, but I think it would just get monotonous to a dancer. |
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Thank you for the marvelous dances Melbamoose! And Ron, I'm sorry, but I agree with her on this one. If the theme rubbed me wrong (and goodness knows I like themed rubbings), at least I would only have to wait an hour for the music to change. |
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Maybe you could have a contest: the first person to correctly identify your intended theme wins. That could challenge you to make the theme a little harder to spot and it could challenge the dancers to pay attention to the music more. |
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You're more than welcome, Shawn. I only wish I got to dance with you more. |
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Ron, can I request a blues theme night just for Krista and me? |
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You act as if all nights weren't blues themed already, Shawn. ;) |
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Valorie, that's a real good idea. But themes like Animals, food, big-band, blues, would be too easy, so I'd have to come up with something more subtle. Hmmm! |
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Wow, did I miss a wide open door on this topic... |
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yes, you lagger! |
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Ian, you always claim you miss a wide-open door, but then you never follow through. Come on, give it your best shot! |
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Well this line is way to obvious: "I'm struggling a bit on how to keep my djing interesting..." Obvious Response: "We've been saying that for years" Bu-dump |
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Yawn, Ian. |
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I just got a new CD with a bunch of sex-theme swing songs, from Julia Lee, including "My Man Stands Out", "Don't Come too soon", and "I Didn't Like it the First Time". Its amazing what those R&B artists could get away with singing in 1947. Between this CD and all the other stuff I have, I want to have a theme night where I play only songs relating to sex. It'll be funny! |
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That would be perfect for Krista and me. Bring it on! |
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Yeah, but it would only be funny cause you don't get any. Speaking of themed nights, I've got one scheduled for THIS Saturday, May 26th at Memories in Anahiem. HARLEM NIGHT will be the theme and I will feature the music of orchestras and groups coming out of Harlem, those that have played in Harlem, including the bands of side men of bands who played in Harlem. All eras, all tempos, all types of bands. Anyway, basicly the idea is just to create a good 'ol Harlem nightclub feel. Plenty of stank, raw, powerful, down home jazz. |
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Damn, if i weren't outta town.. that'd be a theme nite I'd drive for!! Do it again sometime.. just make sure to check my schedule first ~8^) |
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The silly sex songs or the Harlem Jazz? |
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Hot Harlem Jazz, baby. |
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I second the Harlem Jazz over the sex songs. |
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How about Jazz vs. Sex? |
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Uh, I guess that would depend on the partner. |
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I think it depends on the Jazz... |
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Hey Ron. How about some DJ battles with a given theme. That would be a little more fun, and possibly a little more challenging. -JB |
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In the past I've preferred DJing alone so that I can really set the tone of the evening, so that my nights off are really my nights off, and so that I don't feel I have to compensate for the other DJ, like if they've been playing a lot of X, then I can't play X now, I'd better play Y. If its a just a DJ battle for fun the audience really never knows who played what, but its all in fun. If its a real grudge match DJ battle, you want to know who wins, and its a lot of work to set it up for that. In either event, you only get to play 1 1/2 hrs worth at most, which is hardly enough time to do anything. I might be convinced to do one with Meeshi sometime, maybe. Maybe 12 bar vs. aaba. |
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By the way, I was really working hard to keep the music interesting the last couple nights I DJed. I tell ya though, its harder work. But I played a bunch of new stuff, and resurrected a bunch of songs that I hadn't played in a while. |
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But also, I have to remember that I get sick of the songs quicker than everyone else. Now, I played "Wade in the Water" during the final flipper round of the beach ball survivor contest last night, and Heather came up and asked about it, because she hadn't heard it yet. I thought I'd played that song a lot of times by now, but I guess I hadn't played it that much after all. And I've played "Summertime" a lot, but its a great song, people probably aren't sick of it yet. |
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I really liked your music this week Ron. I, for one, think you are doing an awesome job! |
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I 2nd that. Ron you do an awesome job DJ'ing. |
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thanks... My list of sex swing songs is heavy on R&B swing from 1945 to 1951, with a few modern swing songs. But what big-band Swing songs are, or could be, about sex? I was thinking: In the Mood - Glenn Miller Four or Five times - various But that's all I could come up with. Even using a very liberal interpretation of the song.. |
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I Can't Get Started - Bunny Berigan Please Mr. Johnson - Buddy Johnson Prelude To A Kiss -Duke Ellington Big Lip Blues - Jelly Roll Salty Papa Blues - Barney Bigard Little Things That Mean So Much - Teddy Wilson Organ Blues - Sid Catlett Honey Hill - Roy Eldridge Honey in a Hurry - Willie Bryant Moonlight Cocktail - Glenn Miller Deep Creek - Jelly Roll Southern Exposure - Buddy Johnson Slow Down - Louis Jordan I Want A Little Girl - Count Basie Holding The Sack - Roadrunners Soft and Warm - Barney Bigard I'm In A Low Down Groove - Erskin Hawkins You Go To My Head - Jimmy Dorsey Let's Love - Edgar Hayes Jungle Mama - Chick Webb Sun Showers - Louis Armstrong I Tried - Jimmy Dorsey I Want You Tonight - Sidney Bechet Turn Me Loose - Lionel Hampton So Long - Indigo Swing A String of Pearls - Glenn Miller I'm Beginning To Like It - Bill Elliot I'm Coming, Virginia - Bix Beiderbecke Rock Me - Lucky Millinder Stop Pretending - Buddy Johnson Four of Five Times - Jimmie Lunceford Queer Notions - Coleman Hawkins Getting in the Groove - Al Cooper Didn't You? - Count Basie Eager Beaver - Stan Kenton Hot Lips - Red Nichols Slow, Smooth, and Easy - Louis Jordan Big Beaver - Bob Wills One Girl and Two Boys - Kay Kayser Born to Swing - Louis Armstrong Black Stick - Sidney Betchet Never Felt Better, Never Had Less - Bunny Berigan And especially for you Ron, It's the Little Things That Count - Bunny Berigan |
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Ha! Well done Reuben. |
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I knew Reuben would have a good list! and he gets in a good insult, to boot! I hadn't thought about String of Pearls... heh heh |
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Yeah, apparently Miller liked his sex toys. Must of made up for his bland music. |
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If you're looking for early songs you could get one of those compilations of early risque songs like _The Copulatin' Blues_ or _Them Dirty Blues_ although i don't know if you can call them big band songs. Another, although i think it's mostly 40's is _Hot Nuts and Lollipops_ which has "Can I Put My Banana in Your Fruit Basket" and other high brow tunes. *--- The Copulatin' Blues 1. Stavin' Chain (That Rockin' Swing) performed by Johnson, Lil 2. New Rubbin' on That Darn Old Thing performed by Oscar's Chicago Swingers 3. Take Your Hand off My Mojo performed by Cool Grant / Wilson, Kid Wesley 4. Don't Make Me High performed by Johnson, Merline 5. You Can't Tell the Difference After Dark performed by Hunter, Alberta 6. How Do You Do It That Way? performed by Spivey, Victoria 7. If I Can't Sell It, I'll Keep Sittin' on... performed by White, Georgia 8. Please Warm My Weiner performed by Carter, Bo 9. You Stole My Cherry performed by Johnson, Lil 10. Sissy Man Blues performed by Connie McLean's Rhythm Boys 11. You Can't Sleep in My Bed performed by Dixon, Mary 12. Winin' Boy Blues performed by Morton, Jelly Roll 13. It's Tight Like That performed by Smith, Clara http://images.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc600/c639/c639081d84g.jpg |
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Rayned- I checked out that CD before, and it has too low a sound quality for me... |
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OK, this Friday at Claytons I'm going to have a jazz and blues "Standards" theme night. So no "Ooops my bad" or "Another Day in LA" or "Mildred Won't you behave" will be heard. Just standards, songs that have been played a lot by a lot of artists. I made 3 CDs which I'll be playing tracks off of: Standards Vol. 1 DJ Ron Bloom, 5-30-01 1. Ain't Misbehavin' - Goodman (128) 2. Boogie Blues - Eddie Reed (152) 3. Sweet Georgia Brown - Alberta Hunter (131) 4. Good Queen Bess - Johnny Hodges (161) 5. Caldonia - Louis Jordan (171) 6. Mister Five by Five - Lily Wilde (125) 7. String of Pearls - Glenn Gray (153) 8. Big John's Special - Benny Goodman (185-190) 9. Stormy Monday - Gene Harris Jack McDuff (124) 10. Fine Brown Frame - Nellie Lutcher (130) 11. Moten Swing - Jennie Lobel (151) 12. Knock me a kiss - Ella (90) 13. Splanky - Count Basie (122) 14. There's Good Rockin' Tonight - Jimmy Witherspoon (154) 15. Beyond the Sea - Royal Crown Revue (130) 16. Them There Eyes - Ella (170) (5m09s) 17. Jeep Jockey Jump - Bill Elliott (209) 18. Satin Doll - Bud Freeman (137) 19. Begin the Beguine - Artie Shaw (141) 20. At the Woodchopper's Ball - Woody Herman (180) Standards Vol. 2 DJ Ron Bloom, 5-30-01 1. Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy - Andrews Sisters (160) 2. Opus One - The Mills Brothers (155) 3. Fever - Peggy Lee (135) 4. Summertime - Chris Connor (150) 5. Confessin' the Blues - Jay McShann (112) 6. C Jam Blues - Lincoln Ctr Jazz Orch (145) 7. Till Tom Special - Dave Davies (176) 8. Two O'Clock Jump - Harry James (158) 9. Route 66 - Nat King Cole (144) 10. Surrey with the Fringe - Mary Stallings (145) 11. Flat Foot Floogie - Yalloppin Hounds (163) 12. No Name Jive - Glen Gray (184) 13. Is You Is - Jellyroll (120) 14. Ain't Nobody Here but Us Chickens - Louis Jordan (150) 15. Hit that Jive Jack - Nat King Cole (203) 16. The Girl from Ipanema - Lou Rawls (126) 17. Until I Met You (Corner Pocket) - Ellington_Basie (146) 18. Honeysuckle Rose - Kay Starr (161) 19. Perdido - Ellington (132) 20. Roll 'Em - Jay McShann (200) Standards Vol. 3 DJ Ron Bloom, 5-30-01 1. Don't Get Around Much Anymore - Ellington (110) 2. Night Train - Kay Starr (129) 3. Kansas City - Jay McShann (139) 4. Easy Does It - Big 18 (127) 5. In a Mellow Tone - Armstong Ellington (144) 6. Tuxedo Junction - Erskine Hawkins (150) 7. Take the A Train - Duke Ellington (170) 8. Jersey Bounce - Ella Fitzgerald (132) 9. Hit the Road Jack - Shirley Horn (147) 10. Every Day I Have the Blues - Joe Williams (124) 11. On the Sunny Side - Blue Room Boys (138) 12. Honeysuckle Rose - Kay Starr (161) 13. Flying Home - Docs Rhythm Cats (193) 14. You Brought A New Kind Of Love - Goodman (132) 15. I Ain't Got Nothin' But the Blues - Ella (84)(edit) 16. Going to Chicago - Ernestine Anderson (137) 17. It Don't Mean a Thing - Wycliffe Gordon (149) (7m07s) 18. Love Me or Leave Me - Nina Simone (166) 19. Stompin' at the Savoy - Maxine Sullivan (150) 20. Traffic Jam - Artie Shaw (258) I picked one of my favorite versions of the standards, not necessarily the original one. Its a bunch of great songs of various tempos and styles, so come on down to Claytons this Friday and keep me company! I'll adjust the mix according to who's there, as usual. And I may play different songs that just the ones above. Oh, and if anyone thinks one of the above isn't a standard, please tell me why, along with the number of hits on Amazon.com or All Music Guide. I admit I didn't doublecheck each of them. But I have a number of versions of each of the above. see ya! |
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An excellent standards list, Ron. A couple of comments: Traffic Jam - yes! A little Bal-swing and shag for the hummingbirds! The Girl From Ipanema - puzzling choice. Wouldn't this be more in the bossa nova/Brazilian standards category instead of swing? Well, I haven't heard Mr. Rawls's version, so I'll take a listen. So much good stuff to draw from... Hop "The well runs deep" Michael |
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I have still yet to hear Straight no Chaser at a swing dance venue. Surely and excellent beiginner's bal tune. Nat |
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I should include Minnie the Moocher in Vol. 4. And Choo Choo Ch'Boogie. And I'm Beginning to See the Light. Egads. So many good standards! Girl from Ipanema probably shouldn't be on the list, since I meant it to include swinging jazz & blues only, even tho that version swings, most versions don't really. that much. whatever. |
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Hepnat, A cool version of Straight No Chaser is on Thelonious Monk, Genius Of Modern Music Vol 2 (165 bpm). It's short and it swings. |
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Hello Rayned. When do I get to dance with you again? Catalina? Natalie |
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Natalie, Sadly no Catalina for me. But I'll be at Beantown and Montreal. You? And I'm hoping to make it the West Coast this summer. Still a dream. Rayned |
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Hey Nat-- I have 3 different versions of Straight No Chaser, it's just that no one has ever requested that song before. If it were up left up to my musical "indiscretion", I would play a Monk song every night I DJ. Monk rules. But the half-step harmonic dissonances and rhythmic complexity makes it a challenge to listen to, much less dance to. You have to make some minor rhythmic adjustments in your footwork to make your dancing fit the music, but, I agree, it definitely swings...though I would never think of dancing Bal to it. In my opinion, Monk and Bal don't rhythmically and/or aesthetically fit together. |
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Rayned, Your apperance on the west coast will be welcomed in many quarters. I've no other lindy plans apart from Cat at the moment, though I'll probably make it out to our east coast office at some point (and hopefully a repeat visit to the VTR). Meesh, in my ,mind Straight, No Chaser is opposite to say something like the theme to Mission Impossible. Mission impossible sounds straight forward on first listening to it, but it's actually in 7/4 (reminds me of people trying to dance to Take 5 at the Dallas exchange and running out of legs (Take 5 is in 5/4 for the uninitiated)). Whereas Straight, No Chaser is straight 4/4, just each of the 'hook phrases' starts on an anacrusis (sp?) and then travels over the next 2 and a bit bars (measures), holds and then the next 'hook phrase' starts with another anacrusis. Obviously you're not going to be able to bal to it if you try and move a foot for each note played, but when I hear it, I think of bal, because it's got a driving forward feel to it, that at the same time isn't in anyway forced. That's how I think/feel of bal, motion, but floaty. Having said that, I've heard some quite varying versions on the tempo front, an it's probably not as fast as it sounds. Words are inadequate, and I'm not being particularly eloquant....such is life. |
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"Words are inadequate, and I'm not being particularly eloquent....such is life." ...and thus music was born - to express the ineffable. -Hop "Erato, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Urania, Clio, Polyhymnia, Calliope" Michael |
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Great DJing at Clayton's last night, Ron! The playlist made for a fun night of dancing. -HopM |
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I'm going to do the Love and Sex theme this Thursday at the Firehouse. (well, mostly Sex theme). Please c.. er, attend! |
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Hmmm... Maybe my brother will be exhausted, due to being on Baltimore time, and I can ditch him Thursday night. |
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Oh! and I second Michael's thoughts on Clayton's on Friday. The music was awesome! I had so much fun! |
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Hey Nat-- I totally agree your assessment of Straight No Chaser's gentle but driving forward feel. I re-listened to the song and I hear why you might feel like dancing Bal to it. Unfortunately, I can't tune-out Monk's crazy syncopated melodies when I dance. My feet just have no choice but to futilely attempt to follow those wacky rhythms. Drat, I'm rhythmically cursed! |
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The benefits of playing in a band is that somestimes you're playing a rythmn line and what ever crazy sh!t is going on over the top you're doing your um-cha's. But I'm get ya about the music trying to hard-wire itself straight through to your feet. |
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