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So we’ve been discussing (with various deviations) the lead to follow ratio, and the shyness of beginners in social dancing. So how do we get them up and dancing, and even to attend the social dances in the 1st place? I’ve been thinking about this on and off for a couple of months now, and in fact discussed it with Emily when I first started dancing. I started going to the social danced after my second lesson. I remember how large a proportion of my time was spent (even until very recently), propping up the wall. Here goes for a couple of wild suggestions. 1. Getting them to attend – could a teacher make a firm fixture with his students to attend a dance, so they know that there will be safety in numbers, e.g. we’ll all meet outside at X p.m.? 2. Getting them dancing once they are there: A) Have an announced pro-am type dance where beginners go to one side of the hall, everyone else to the other and you can only dance with someone from the other side of the hall. Make the music nice and easy and not too long. B) Taxi dancers – something that work well on the dance scene where I used to dance, was that a couple of the better leads and follows wore ‘taxi dancer’ t-shirts for about half an hour at the beginning of the dance (after the lesson). It was their job to dance with as many beginners as possible. The t-shirts were so that they were recognizable to the beginners and so the other experienced dancers would keep them free for the beginners. C) Give beginners the choice of picking up 3 ‘dance-stickers’ when the pay entry to the dance (you could even have lead stickers saying “Y’ dancin’?”, and follow stickers saying, “Y’askin’?”, that that stick on their tops (along with their name sticker). Anyone dancing with them claims one of their stickers. People who collect 5 or more stickers in an evening (i.e. dance with 5 or more beginners in the evening), have that option of redeeming them against a dollar back on their entry fee. D) Ask them to dance. Maybe some generous minded souls are interested in forming a taxi rank. We would just need a couple each of leads and follows to be ‘on duty’ at each event. Although I wouldn’t class myself as an experienced dancer, maybe intermediate is adequate for a lead. Who’s up for designing the T-shirts? |
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Actually, we had proposals for taxi dancers at the Marriott and it didn't go over real well, but I can't remember exactly why. The thread probably still has those messages. I'm so pleased the Firehouse has so many beginners. I had a nice dance Thursday with a beginner. |
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I had been wondering what a "taxi dancer" was... The first time I had ever heard the term was on an Ally McBeal episode.. And all sorts of things came to mind! |
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I think taxi dancers were originally dancers (usually women) who worked at dance halls as paid partners - i.e. x cents a dance, for those that didn't have a social partner to dance with. Eva Peron started out as a taxi dancer according to the film Evita. |
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The Satin Ballroom in LA has taxi dancers, but I don't know how successful they have been. |
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Why not just ASK the new faces to dance? And when the song is over, smile and ask them to come get you again before the evening is over. It works for me, I ask newbies to dance all the time. There are a bunch of newer leads that now feel very comfortable asking me to dance. Isn't that what we need to build out there? Comfort level? Just go pluck someone off the wall. You might be surprised at how many of them aren't as "bad" as they think they are (in fact you may get a visiting out-of-towner who is really good, just unkown). It also helps create a feeling of acceptance when you just go start chatting with a new dancer of the same sex. That builds a comfort level, too. Being noticed and spoken to/with helps make newer dancers feel welcome, even if they are there with a bunch of their freinds. |
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Dance with me! Dance with me! Oh, wait, I dont get to go anywhere, ever. Well, not entirely true, I went to Memories last night (second time at an actual swing club and not the lesson+open dance in a physics classroom at my school). I did end up "propping up the wall" a lot...but I did get to dance. A couple guys asked me, a couple I asked (I was getting brave, I wouldnt even think about asking someone to dance the first time I went), and then one of my female friends who can lead pretty well danced with me. I think that the whole newbies all gather in groups and go dancing isnt exactly a wonderful idea. Sure, it will make them feel more comfortable, but will they actually dance? My first time at Memories was with a large group from my campus swing club and I know I danced maybe three times--all with people in my group. This last time I went with the friend who can lead and another real newbie friend. We were forced to actually dance with people we didn't know and we had a great time. But thats just my experience... |
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I'll jump in and comment, as a beginner. In fact I'm still at the stage where I don't really have enough skills to Lindy with much of anyone; but I'm working on it... I like the idea of Taxi Dancers. Perhaps they could wear a special sticker or button? Probably easier to manage than T-shirts. I'd ask a TD to dance (when I get a little better, perhaps in a few more weeks) And the TD's could try to spot the beginners and ask them to dance too. The stickers could indicate if the TD could lead, follow or both (I'd certainly dance with a female lead.) The Pro-Am type dance is a good idea. I'd go for that too. For some reason I haven't put my finger on yet, I don't really like the idea of beginners' dance stickers. Perhaps it is the idea of labeling myself that way (but as soon as I dance, it will be clear what my skill level is); perhaps it is the idea of getting money back for dancing with newbies. I don't know; I just don't really care for the idea. And I like the idea of experienced dancers making a point of asking a couple of beginners each night. I know that it isn't as much fun to dance with someone who is way behind you in ability, but I see it as an investment in the dance community. As I'm trying to learn how to follow, I find that it is very helpful to dance with good leads, that way I know I'm getting clear signals and I can concentrate on trying to do the right thing as a follow. I don't have to get distracted by what the lead is or isn't doing right/wrong. Beginning leads with beginning follows is a lot like the blind leading the blind. I don't mind it (my husband and I are learning together) but it sure helps to dance with a good lead from time to time. Other beginners out there: what do you think? Katherine |
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Katherine, thanks for the comments back. And Jane, I put "ask them to dance" as my final point in an attempt at irony. It's the obvious solution, but doesn't seem to work that well. I still have to steel myself to ask guys I don't know to dance. Does it ever get any easier. I know I've been making a concious effort to dance with beginners recently and will continue to do so. The t-shirts would be quite easy if you just used a stencil and some spray paint. So if you are a beginner lead, come grab me for a dance, if I don't get to you first. I've only been doing the Lindy thing for 5 months, so I'm fairly new to it myself. I'm at the Firehouse every Thursday (unless there is some natural disaster). You can recognize me by my pigtails and the fact I'm 5'11". And girls, give me a couple of weeks and I can practice my absolute beginner leading with you. Nat |
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