Swing vs. Salsa

SwingOrama Forum: Lindy Hop: Swing vs. Salsa
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 11:55 am: Edit

Our swing scene is losing more and more people to Salsa. Including me, sorta. I'm going to start taking lessons, partly because I had so much fun at Cafe Sevilla a couple weeks back. I still like Lindy best, and I like swing music best, but Salsa and places like Cafe Sevilla definitely have something going for them that's appealing to me. Live music, good crowd, drinks, atmosphere, higher energy, to name a few. And I'm going to go more often now. Swing is still fading, based on numbers of students and attendance at swing nights. But Salsa's still on the rise. And in this city, at least, some of it is coming at the expense of swing nights (Catamaran vs. Sevilla on Wednesdays). Is this a concern to anyone? I doubt there is anything we can do, but I thought it might start an interesting discussion.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 12:13 pm: Edit

I can't bounce. I can move my hips! Maybe Salsa's my dance and I
just don't know it yet! I could never abandon swing music, though.
I can only take Salsa music in small doses.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 12:21 pm: Edit

Would someone enlighten me about Salsa music?

I've tried listening/dancing to it, and I always get fooled about when the song will end.

Does it follow any compositional patterns?

Andy?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 12:39 pm: Edit

I did a bit of salsa a while back, and I feel that it doesn't give as much opportunity for individual styling and expressions as does lindy. But that might be because I don't know it well enough to know any better.
Are we 'losing' people to salsa? Or are people just deciding to do salsa as well as swing?
Ron, where were you last night when I had hardly any one to salsa with (thanks for the dances marcus and Meeshi)?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 01:21 pm: Edit

I went to the Catamaran to see the Uptown Boys. It was fun. Jennifer, Ian & Nancy, Rob, white t-shirt Bill and a woman from Chicago named Dee-Dee were there. Dee-dee recognized me from my Chicago dancing days... The Uptown Boys were OK.

I don't know if we've totally lost anyone to Salsa. Even Mike Fowler (Hawaiian Mike) comes to swing events occasionally still. But lots of people go more often to Salsa and less often to Swing. And beginners are packing Cafe Sevilla, too...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 04:23 pm: Edit

Salsa's fun, and Cafe Sevilla is a really cool place. Change of pace is fun. There were a bunch of 'swing' people there last nite. We were all tired of dancing to slow jazzy music. ha ha ha.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 04:25 pm: Edit

I heard a dirty rumor that Gabe even showed up for salsa. This true? G - do you need some protection from the inevitable lynching from the LA crowd (joke, joke, LA stylers don't get the drawers all wrinkled ~8^)

Yeah, HopM, I always blow the end of the song. Like swing, though, many songs do have a recognizable structure. I'm sure they all do, but I can only pick it out in some. But, there are definable phrases and the like.

As far as room for improv... I think there is ample opportunity in salsa as well, though, only if you're good, and it's something important to you. I spend alot of time watching salsa, since i'm learning, and one thing our community (lindy) really pushes is musicality and improv. Though I still have alot of work to do there, every song I try to connect w/ the music and goof with it. And as I watch other dancers, I see many folks listening, connecting, improving.

In the salsa scene, I see very little (if any)emphasis on those things. Even with many experienced dancers. (my girlfriend is gonna kick my butt...) One thing maybe inherent in salsa, or maybe it's something important to those dancers, but there seems to be alot of emphasis on showing off the woman. (maybe it's just the skimpy outfits, i dunno) ~8^)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 04:32 pm: Edit

Yeah Andy, your girlfriend and I were doing the lombada last nite, she is good. But I didn't catch on to twirling my hands in the air like you do, maybe you can show me some time? ~8^D

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ian Campbell on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 04:40 pm: Edit

Andy, do you salso with those glow sticks?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Thursday, May 11, 2000 - 06:41 pm: Edit

I've noticed that people in general out here on the west coast jump from one interest to another more often than people back east. Plus, I've noticed that many of the people here don't settle down like they do back east. I think it is b/c there are just so many things to try and do, and the weather is great all year long. I think that is one reason why people in the lindy scene seek alternatives. It's part of the southern California lifestyle. (just a fact: San Diego has the highest percentage of singles than any other city in the US) I forget where I read that, some newspaper.

I don't think Salsa is stealing people away from the lindy scene, I think it might be more exciting and easier to pick up for beginners and intermediates. The basic is a lot easier than the lindy basic, and once you've gotten the Salsa basic down moves are just as easy. Plus, the level of improv is far less than Lindy. In Addition, the women that dance Salsa wear much sexier outfits than the lindy dancers.

Another possible reason why there are less Lindy dancers than before is the energy at the dances. The music tends to be more low key and the emphasis has pulled away from "showy" lindy to "social" lindy. What I mean is that when I started dancing the more advanced and younger dancers really put emphasis on doing swing jams and "big" moves. Plus, the music tastes, at the time, were geared toward the "neo" swing music that was packed with energy, but lacked musical depth. The swing jams brought tremendous energy to the dance, some people would argue that it was intimidating, but that is what got Shana and me interested to learn more and to better our dancing. It became our goal to be able to enter a swing jam and be as good as the dancers we looked up to. Later, people would argue that the "swing jam" was all about choreography and less about social "lead and follow."

Our local instructors and more advanced dancers really started to focus on social dancing, and fine tuning their lead and follow skills. These are essential for any dance, especially for Lindy, which is a dance based on improvisation. The Savoy style lindy really was the perfect style to begin experimenting with improvisation, b/c the lead and follow held their own centers, and did not rely on counter balancing tension. Dancers then began to notice that more improvisation could be done with slower swing songs and the bluesier the song, the richer the opportunities were to improv. This began a small crack in the local scene.

Some dancers believed that the bluesier jazz songs were leaning more toward the Be Bop genre of jazz, and away from swing jazz. Those dancers wanted to preserve the original lindy dance form and dance to the music that the Lindy was originally designed around. Thus, the mild separation of the scene occurred. (at one time all the lindy hop dancers danced together at the same venues regularly, now it is not that consistent) The dancers that believed in the preservation theory, influenced by the LA dancers and their own research, felt that the local scene was being dominated by the dancers that preferred the slow and bluesy jazz music. So, they began venturing up to LA to listen and dance to the music they wanted to hear.

This caused attendance at many, at one time crowded, venues to be less crowded. Not that the San Diego under 18 law helped any. The scene began to be more geared toward the Savoy jazzy style since the separation of the styles occurred.

So back to why the scene seems to be deflating. The Savoy jazzy style, that seems to be so dominate in this city, is not an easy dance to learn. I think the majority of people that want to learn how to lindyhop have the "quick and now" state of mind. Where they expect to take a few lessons and BAMMM! they can dance like the more advance dancers in the scene. They don't understand that it takes time and patience to make progress. I also think that the energy that existed when Shana and me began Lindyhop has died, thus causing the interest of learning Lindy to subside. Another reason, is no one really seems like they are pushing each other to their limits. The main difference between San Diegans and the LA dancers is that the LA dancers are always trying to better one another, by showing each other moves, critiquing each other, and always trying to come up with new moves to showcase in their swing jams and competitions. Needless to say, that creates an energy within the entire scene. I don't notice that here in San Diego. I wouldn't want SD to be like LA any ways, b/c that's not original. It seems like the Lindy scene has become individual based. Instead of swing jams and group interaction, the dancers seem to focus on their individual dances. (sure there is the Shim Sham and improv circle s lead by Meeshi - group stuff) Maybe it's because there are a lot of beginners and intermediates that out number the more advanced that are focusing on getting better. I'm hoping that is the case, b/c I see a lot of newbies and one time newbies now intermediates at many local venues and if they stay with it they will be the next local advanced dancers!! Keep it up!!!

There are a few other styles of dance that are associated with swing music, the Balboa and the Collegiate Shag. Both are easy dances to learn, yet there is only one couple that teach it locally - Julia and Lisa. You can't do either of those dances to the slower blues jazz that is played at many of the venues, unfortunately. It would be nice to see more beginners learning these dances. It would be also nice to hear more variety of swing music at our venues, it seems to be heavily weighted on the bluesier slower jazz side. That might get more energy to the scene.

Sorry for the long thesis. It's been a hot topic for some time, "How to get more people into the scene, and keep them interested." I really love this dance and care a lot about the scene, and where it is going. I'm just not the type of person to let things die without a fight.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 11:57 am: Edit

Whew! We could argue about a lot of things, but I totally agree with you that one attraction of Salsa is that the women sure wear some sexy outfits. slits that go on forever...

I've always thought that the instructors around here should teach beginning east-coast swing first, even without triple steps. That's what they did in Chicago, and it gets people dancing quickly. Lindy is hard, no matter what style or flavour.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By CatThyme on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 12:30 pm: Edit

Aramis and Bridget always taught east-coast first when they taught at Tio Leo's on Wednesdays. I thought they did a really good job getting newbies dancing and giving them an intro to lindy hop after they got the east coast basics down. It's a shame that Wednesdays at Tio's died down after Aramis and Bridget moved to LA.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:03 pm: Edit

Yeah, but with salsa you don't jump up and down and show your @$$. Plus the slits would only account for mainly guys being attracted to salsa, less so the girls. I for one, really like the lindy urban warrior look. Mind you, some of those salsa guys sure do dress good - those biceps and pec hugging shirts, mmmmmmm.
Although I think it's easier to get going on salsa, than lindy, I think it's equally hard to look really good in both. I've seen people who have been doing salsa for quite a while and never really get the rythmn (delay) quite right or do the hip thing from side to side rather than the dislocatey-hip forward and backward thing. When it's done right, it looks sooo coooooool though.
I think with salsa you do have to be as comfortable with your partner as with blues lindy.

Talking of other styles of dancing, wasn't the tango demo great last night. I'd like to give it a shot - a new opportunity to look completely dorky.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:14 pm: Edit

Not me, I'm still trying to not look dorky doing Lindy and Salsa.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:24 pm: Edit

Funny Ron.

Actually I watched you dance Lindy last night alittle bit, and I forget who you were dancing with, but it looks like you've been really practicing!! What I mean is, you looked way smoother than you did in the past!!! Good going Ron!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:42 pm: Edit

Let's hope he starts practicing on his musical selections.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By CatThyme on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:47 pm: Edit

Actually, I think Ron's musical selections are great. The crowd last night should confirm that. I showed up last night at the Firehouse at 11:45pm, and the place pretty packed for a work night!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 01:50 pm: Edit

Let's hope the Firehouse dancers start practicing on their musical tastes.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 02:16 pm: Edit

Reuben, go pi$$ on somebody else's bonfire.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Anonymous on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 02:24 pm: Edit

I actually liked chris' novel and would like to hear where you disagree Ron, not to pick a flame fight, but genuinely interested in how you percieve it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Twirly on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 02:56 pm: Edit

Well, to take the onus off Ron, I just have to say that I think there is wonderful energy at the Firehouse. I have more fun dancing there I think, than any other venue before or since (although Cafe Savoy is a very close second) and yet there's a lot of slower, jazzier music played and usually the only jams we have are b-day jams. But I walk in the door on a Thursday night and the energy in the room just blows me away.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 02:57 pm: Edit

Let's hope that Natalie starts practicing on her musical tastes.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Anonymous on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 03:17 pm: Edit

Natalie has fantastic taste and tremendous class, which is more than any of us can say about Reuben.

I feel sorry for you, Reuben. I realize that you are young, but do you have to be so immature?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 03:36 pm: Edit

Let's hope that Anonymous start practicing on recognizing a joke. Same goes for Natalie.

And being Anonymous is ever so tasteful and classy. ;) Please don't feel sorry for me, my life is GRAND.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 03:47 pm: Edit

OK smart guy, so what are my musical influences? What instruments do I play? What is my real musical love?
Reuben, don't even _presume_ to comment on my musical tastes. You don't even have a clue whether or not I approve of the music at the Firehouse. The sole point of my comment was that you shouldn't put a downer on something that is obviously enjoyable to a large number of people and that, I believe doesn't in anyway affect you, as you don't even attend this event (or if you do, nobody's making you).
My post in no way indicated my musical preference, so I don't know how you think you're positioned to comment on something you know less then zip about.
OK rant over, gave into the franco, hot temper side.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By CatThyme on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:04 pm: Edit

What cracks me up is that for someone who protests that his life is GRAND, he sure does spend a lot of time slamming a scene he rarely ever participates in. Most of his participation seems to be the negative energy he spends antagonizing others.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:05 pm: Edit

Hmmmmmmmmm. Reuben, how am I supposed to recognize it's a joke? Jokes are supposed to contain _some_ element of humour. Maybe as well as bold, and italic, there should be a sarcastic variation to all type fonts, so that we would be able to tell from the tone rather than the content.
Just to clarify I started composing my above post before Reuben posted his 3:36pm one.
And anaymous, than you for the chivalrous defense of my honour.
Reuben, if you think I was the one that posted anaymously, think again. This (if it hadn't been a joke) is exactly the kind of thing I like to face off, so why would I pretend it wasn't me?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:18 pm: Edit

I'm having fun and laughing all the time aren't I? That's negative energy? hee, hee.

See Natalie, that would have been your clue that it was a joke. Because see, I have to idea what your musical tastes are. In fact, your right I have never been to the Firehouse so I have no idea what music is being played there. Therefore, any reasonable person, with half a sense of humor, would have realized that it was a joke.

P.S. Don't take yourselves so seriously. I don't take myself seriously, and that is why my life is so GRAND. Fun and fancy free... hee, hee

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:18 pm: Edit

Let's hope that Reuben starts practicing the art of tact.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:20 pm: Edit

No, I don't think Anonymous is you, nor did I imply that I did.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:21 pm: Edit

In response to Chris's thesis:

Extremely well-said, Chris! My hat is off to your observations. I'm sure there are many other reasons for the leveling off of the interest in the dance, but you make a cogent argument.

Don't you find it ironic that in San Diego jazzier/bluesier song arrangements have supplanted "classic" big band swing arrangements just as the music evolved from the 1930's to the 1950's? History does repeat itself!

I enjoy the Modern Savoy style; I enjoy faking Hollywood/LA/DC/smooth style. The music dictates what style will be most appropriate. For me, the dance is fundamentally about the music and your partner. I don't believe one style has a monopoly on the Swing label. They're just different styles to different types of music. Judging from the reports around the country (Ithaca's exchange, San Francisco's recent Swing Dance Festival, and many Lindy exchanges sprouting across the country), I'd be hard pressed to say that Lindy is dying or that Modern Savoy is the root of its decline. Yes, Lindy is surely changing. But it has been changing all the time since its resurgence in the early 90's.

Keep dancing, keep learning and inventing, and keep sharing the the magic of swing with new dancers.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:21 pm: Edit

Tact? What's that?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ian Campbell on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:34 pm: Edit

I'm anonymous, don't know how it got clicked on, but it was me. just picking up on the opportunity to engage in intelligent conversation.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:39 pm: Edit

Ok, I'm unreasonable and have no sense of humor. I'm the last person to take myself seriously (ask anyone who's seen what I do with my hair when I dance), I'm just not used to (joke) blasts from people I'm wholly unfamiliar with. Call it a cutural dirrence.

Plus ça change, plus c'est interessant.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 04:53 pm: Edit

Maybe it's just me and my odd sense of humor.

Ian, you are still tasteless and classless. HA HA HA

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 05:27 pm: Edit

Michael,
I can see where you or one could read into my statement about the Modern Savoy being the root of the decline. I think partly it is. The modern Savoy has become a very difficult dance, especially if one wants to pick it up fast. Not saying that other styles of lindy are any easier. What some of the more advanced dancers have done around the world is refine it by playing, experimenting, and manipulating it to various different musical genres. Look at last nights ad Meeshi anounced about what Europeans are doing with the Argentine Tango, Swango! Dances evolve constantly b/c dancers want to make it theirs. Everyone has their own style, and it isn't as defined as various other dances taught in the Ballroom setting. Vernon Castle and his wife set up strict rules about ballroom dancing when they began to market it and teach it. The Lindy has hardly any boundaries, I think that is hard for many people to understand. It's a very abstract dance, people don't deal with abstraction on a day-to-day basis. Many people like to have precise definitions about moves and stylings.

Nice association with the history of jazz. Swing to Be Bop, to Hard Bop, to Free Jazz, to Crossover, . . . .
The music became harder and harder to dance to over the years, especially when Be Bop went to Free Jazz - that lost everyone except the acid droppers.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Friday, May 12, 2000 - 06:03 pm: Edit

The kids left the Rocket because it wasn't as cool anymore, and there weren't any new commercials and hit songs to fuel the fad. Same thing everywhere around the country. Every other reason for swing's decline locally is very secondary to the primary reason for its decline nationally. In my opinion, anyway. But its still fun to blame Salsa! Or lack of jam circles, or the increasing interest in slower, jazzier music, or Ron's DJing, or the color of Mickey's shirt, or whatever. I personally think its Reuben's fault.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Melbamoose on Saturday, May 13, 2000 - 09:11 pm: Edit

wow Ron! That was the first post I think I've ever enjoyed from you...
go figure.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 09:33 am: Edit

lucky accident!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ian Campbell on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 09:26 am: Edit

More proof that Ron is wrong...
proof

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 09:51 am: Edit

Yo, what kin'na dancin', foo?

We know you love ballroom, admit it man. No shame in it, nothin wrong with it... time to face your daemons

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 09:56 am: Edit

Wow... even the 70's and 80's beat out the 50's. RAD.

To bad they left out the 30's in their poll... the decade I would have picked.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 10:15 am: Edit

Ian - should have dug a little deeper into the research!!

data

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 10:24 am: Edit

That just proves the same thing Andy... Ella stopped producing Swing dance tunes after the 40's.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ian Campbell on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 11:12 am: Edit

Actually the 20's and 30's bottomed out the list but, they didn't include it in the table.

Check out:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000519/zo/dance_2.html

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 11:33 am: Edit

It would be interesting to find out the ages of the people who were polled.

That there was such a strong 1940's selection among--I assume--randomly questioned adults is actually a very strong statement. After all, there would --presumably--be an even distribution across all ages and most folks would not have been around the 1940's to hear that music live. So the preference for that era is even more remarkable!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 11:36 am: Edit

Tsk, tsk, tsk Reuben, stats not our strong point?. It doesn't prove any such thing! It states that 65.7% of the best swing dance tunes were produced between the 20s and the 50s. And that Ella produced 25.1% of the best swing dance tunes. If you want to show how much of the 25.1% in included in, and distributed between the 65.7%, you'd need a Ven (one or 2 n's) diagram.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ian Campbell on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 12:22 pm: Edit

Now were arguing stats validity of a doctored image?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 12:29 pm: Edit

VeNN diagram

editin' HopM

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 12:37 pm: Edit

Oh, Ian. It was just I could poke fun at Reuben. Give me some credit, I'm not 100% engineer.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 01:06 pm: Edit

Well whatever you were doing, you lost me way before I could tell you were pokeing fun of me. ;)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 02:26 pm: Edit

What Ian's post shows, as opposed to Andy's forgery, is that when people think of fun dancing and dance music, swing music from the 40's pops to mind the most, as opposed to jazzy, hip-hop and jump-blues and the like. They are all great music types, and fun to dance to, but those music genres didn't produce swing dancing, swing music did.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jane Hance on Friday, May 19, 2000 - 08:56 pm: Edit

If I'm not mistaken, the 40's produced more than just great swing dance music. It produced music for all the popular Ballroom dance forms. And since dancing was a main form of entertainment and social interaction and respectable boy-girl contact, the variety got more people on the dance floor.
By the way, I am simply repeating what I've been told by my husband's Aunts (86, 82, 78) who actually danced, danced, danced through those years. And who's parents danced, too!


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