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Hi people!! Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!! I'm still eating left overs!! Surprised that I would have any left, but the food was so good I wanted it to last. Last night, Friday 26, Shana and I met up with Tan, Valerie, and Melissa at the Jazz Festival at Town and Country Convention center. Not too bad, A lot of traditional jazz, Dixieland, and New Orleans jazz. Chicago Six were there to do the swing though. I happened by the memorabilia section and found many, many books on Jazz!! Art Tatum, Benny, Artie Shaw, The Duke, Hard Bop, Bebop, Swing, and the list goes on. Just amazing stuff, old out of print stuff. I was digging and found a book called "Jazz Dance: The story of American Vernacular Dance." Of course, I bought it and have been reading it ever since, (a wopping one day!!). Written by Marshall and Jean Stearns, released by DA CAPO PRESS, NY, copyright - 1968. The book begins with Africa and the West Indies, then moves all through the black influenced dances and Russian dances, up through the Jitterbug. They received a lot of there Jitterbug (Lindy Hop)info from extensive interviews from Shorty George Snowden, Leon James, and Al Minns. Wow!! Whitey was the leader of a gang called the "Jolly Fellows" and most of all the dancers were a part of it, mainly for protection and the chance to dance at the Savoy Ballroom. The Jolly Fellows ran the Savoy, just as the gang called The Buffaloes ran the Renaissance Ballroom. Shorty George worked with Paul Draper, a white dancer, in Washington. Paul was very impressed with the Lindy Hop and commented that "He wished he could move like George." George was interested in Paul's ballet influenced moves "and promptly adapted them to his own purposes." "I got a few things from Draper," Shorty recalls, . . . Almost anything was gist for the Lindy Mill." The book even makes a statement about the first air steps. Frankie's name is not mentioned but mentions Al Minns, Joe Daniels, Russell Williams, and Pepsi Bethel as the contributors of the air steps. Of course this is entirely from Shorty George, Leon James, and Al Minns. The emphasis of the Lindy Hop, and what made it stand out amoung other dances, was the breakaway (6,7,8 of the swingout). Here is were individuals personalities came out, and no one would copy anybodies moves!! If the dancers saw this happening they would pounce the person and probably beat the living hell out of them (according to the book). They even interview Ernie Smith, a white dancer, from Pittsburgh, PA. He hung out at this place called Hill City. This was in the black area of town and here is where he watched all the African-Americans dance the Lindy Hop in 1939. According to Smith,"The fundamental lesson of Hill City was to dance smoothly." Other facts from the book: -Lindy Hop was called the "Hop" untill Lindenburgh flew over the Atlantic. -Whitey employed around 72 dancers adn went under the names of "the savoy hoppers", "the jive-a-dears",and "whitey'd lindyhoppers." -Leon James remarks: "Dizzy Gillespie was featured in the brass section of Teddy Hill's screaming band. A lot of people had him pegged as a clown, but we loved him. Every time he played a crazy lick, we cut a crazy step to go with it. And he dug us and blew even crazier stuff to see if we could dance to it, a kind of game, with musicians and dancers challeging each other." I'll keep posting little items I find while reading. This book is not a bible, so most of this stuff could be debatable. Yet, their bibliography is intense and long, referencing all sorts of people, places, etc. So I would conclude a lot of this stuff is factual. I'm posting it here for rebuttal and other takes on what I have read. I'm sure someone else has read or found conflicting information. Some of what I have read even contridicts "Swinging at the Savoy" by Norma Miller. What do you guys and gals think? |
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Wow! I didn't know I was dancing the Vernacular! :) Seriously, sounds like a cool book that Peter Loggins would love. I'd love to take a peek at it someday, Chris. |
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Hello to all! One thing that has surprised me in the swing scene...and maybe it is because people are busy dancing.....is the fact that so few people seem to be acquainted with some of the very basic books in the dance and swing category. "Jazz Dance" by the Stearns came out in the late sixties with a lot of the research having been done several years before. It's closer to the source than most contemporary books will ever be. The other book that all swing and big band fans shoud have is "The Big Bands" by George T. Simon. In it, he writes about hundreds of bands. It's a basic and very chatty and quite accurate book. Simon had been a writer and then the editor of "Metronome" magazine, which in the 30s and 40s, was the weekly bible of big band activities. Read both books! |
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You can get Jazz Dance on Amazon.com. I got mine there a few years ago. |
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Oh, Jazz Dance also has a great reference section in the back which lists movies with lindy hop, tap, etc. in them. A great guide for those who collect rare footage. |
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I'm not positive about this (still looking for confirmation) but I recall reading about this book in Margaret Batiuchok's thesis on Lindy. It used to be posted on the WLHF archive page. In her thesis, Margaret actually interviewed both Al Minns and Leon James and asked about their contributions to Marshal & Jean Stearns' book. Apparently when the Stearns' were interviewing the two of them, Al & Leon had decided that they were going to have some fun w/ the two historians and basically began bull-shitting about gangs and other fantastic things. I believe all that stuff about Frankie's "Jolly's Fellows" were one of those prank stories that Al & Leon weaved for the Stearns (as were apparently almost all of their stories involving gangs and such). The Stearns not knowing better published it as fact. To which Al & Leon later stated publically to be inaccuracies. These "yarns" were later dismissed by Frankie & Norma Miller as a bunch of hooey. Now granted the majority of the book is accurate and the only bogus parts were the stories related by Al & Leon. Now if I could only find a copy of Margaret's Thesis to verify this. Anybody got a copy? |
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Like I said to you on Saturday night, Chris: Somehow I don't think anyone would be intimidated by a gangbanger threatening you with the wrath of the "Jolly Fellows." |
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I have an address for Margaret. She has manuscripts for sale as well as video's with the interviews. Her Address is: 238 E. 14th Street New York, NY. This info may be out-dated. It was compiled for an article in the orginal Swivel when I lived in Phoenix. I will try to get you a web address. You use to be able to download the thesis. According to the article it takes a long time and is 65 pages long and full of spelling typos. The author of my article recommends purchasing it directly from her. Hope that helps! I believe if you type "lindy thesis" into your search engine you will get it! Let me know what you think. |
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http://www.swingcraze.com/ussds/LindyHop/lindy-thesis.html |
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I have a copy of Margaret's thesis and under the chapter - Social History: Black Culture - she mentions the Savoy Ballroom at 141st St and Lenox Avenue. Further on she mentions Herbert White (Whitey) and it reads as follows: Street gangs were prevalent, serving the need for fellowship, protection in the streets, and providing structure in a crumbling and alienating area. . . . Herbert White, "Whitey," proved that one could get ahead with such power by organizing and imposing a tight control on his group. Whitey began a gang called the Jolly Fellows in 1923. They had a clubhouse with their own pool table, a rather rough initiation for new memebers, "hanging an uppercut on the jaw" of an astonished "proprieter" and stand there without running. . . . Membership grew from 100 to over 600 in the 30's. The Jolly Fellows became "the" club for the great dancers at the Savoy. This information matches the same as in the book JAZZ DANCE by the Stearns. |
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Jazz dance by the Stearns' is a good book because Marchall Stearns was a Jazz historian before he got facinated by the dance. Although He does touch base on the swing dancing done before the lindy Hop at the Barbary coast ,Unfortunatly,It's all centered on the NY area. Peter L. |
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Which is only natural when you consider that, for all intents and purposes, NYC quickly became the jazz corner of the world. |
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Absolutly! But after New Orleans,Chicago and San Fransico! It wasn't until the end of WW2 that Los Angeles slowly creeped up and took it away! |
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Update: I've gotten pretty far into this book and it has covered many historical events in American Dance. I highly recommend this book to anyone curious of the beginnings of American dance. The book started out with Al Minns, Leon James, Asadata Dafora (Sierra Leone, West AFrica), and Geoffery Holder (from Trinidad, West Indies). All four of these dancers were in a lounge and demonstated various dances that they do. Al and Leon began doing such dances as the cakewalk, shimmy, cool, etc. After the dance was performed the other two dancers were free to comment on them. Several of the American dances were traced back to Africa, such as the Shimmy. In fact, "Elements of the Lindy, or Jitterbug, were noted by Holder in a Shango dance, and by Dafora in an Ejor tribal dance" (Jazz Dance. Stearns. page 12.). So our beloved Lindy does have African influences and was noted in the book as parts of the dance have been observed in african tribal dances. Very interesting. Further, the Stearns speak about the origins of tap and shows in American during the early 1800's. They speak of the Irish Jig (Raindance), and the English Clog (Clogging - still popular in Tennessee and Kentucky), and Soft-Shoe. "the Soft-Shoe refers to as Song and Dance" (page 49). It goes on and speaks of Ealry Minstrelsy, side shows, and circuses. Many of the dances that we see today came from the mixing of the African-Americans from the PLantations and the White folk dancing in their parties. In New Orleans there was a district in which both whites and African-Americans mixed when dancing. The African-Americans started taking steps from the English and the French and applying it to their dances, and the same occurred the other way. The history telling continues to the early 1900's mentioning popular dancers as Bill " Bojangles" Robinson, Reuben Brown (no, not the one from Orange County), and white Irish people imitating blacks by painting their face black (mid 1800's). African-Americans that were trying to make it as dancers even painted their faces black to imitate themselves. The Charleston is even mentioned as early as the late 1890's. The book goes into great detail of such events mentioned, and if I were to write a report on it, this post would be very long. The more I read and find info, I'll continue to post it here. I feel that it is very important to understand where things come from. History helps one understand why we do the things we do, and feel connected with the past. |
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Marshall Steans also wrote a book called "the story of Jazz" ISBN 0-19-501269-0 it might be out of print as Jazz was for awhile but if you can get it, it's great. I actually have a film clip of MARSHALL STEARNS with Al and Leon where they demostrate alot of dances... he was one square guy that seemed to really try and do his homework. |
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Peter, How did you manage to find that? Very nice!! Maybe I could send you a tape and you could copy it for me, I would love to see it. I understand that you're quite the historian, so maybe you can help me out? In the back of the book there is a section listing many recordings and kinescopes featuring dancing. I would love to view some of these films. Especially the Harvest Moon Ball News reels by Movietone News, MGM news, etc. Do you know how one go about viewing these reels, or getting them on video cassette? Any ideas let me know. |
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Chris, It's an interesting list in the back of the book,however it is limited. Maybe,the next workshop in S.D. I'll bring some of that stuff to show! |
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