Break Away - Dance North County all ages dance March 10, 18, & April 1

SwingOrama Forum: Lindy Hop: Break Away - Dance North County all ages dance March 10, 18, & April 1
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, February 29, 2000 - 09:26 am: Edit

$6 COVER AT THE DOOR
8PM - 12 MIDNIGHT
535 Encinitas Blvd. Suite 100
Encinitas, CA 92024
760-942-6362


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, February 29, 2000 - 02:52 pm: Edit

If anyone is interested in helping out please contact me. This is your event, the more you put in to it the more you will get out of it!

I am not setting this up to teach, to make money, or anything like that. I had an opportunity to get a studio for the weekends. I loose nothing on this, not money - nothing. It's up to you to make this happen. Like all of you, I just wanted a place to dance on the weekends, and now we have one!

e-mail jono1973@aol.com

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, February 29, 2000 - 03:40 pm: Edit

Now we have too many! 2 on Friday, 1 on Saturdays, 1 on Sundays. Ack!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 05:12 pm: Edit

More info on . . .
BREAK AWAY

Dance North County


  • Friday March 10 -GRAND OPENING DJ's Ron and Chris
  • Saturday March 18 -POTLUCK DINNER There are two birthdays to celebrate too! So bring some food to share! If you have any questions please direct them to Shana Bowling cannon1973@aol.com
  • Saturday April 1 - April fools day!! Reuben Brown from Orange County will be DJing. No Joke!!!


Come out and support your local dance scene!!
Hope to see all of you there!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 05:18 pm: Edit

Im not from freakin' Orange County damn it!!!

Not that there is anything wrong with Orange County of course. Hee, hee.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 10:02 am: Edit

Ooops,
You are from where?

How about: from North of San Diego very close to LA

Will that work?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Melbamoose on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 10:19 am: Edit

Isn't he from South Pasadena?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Melbamoose on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 10:20 am: Edit

Chris!! I totally want to help and tried finding you this past weekend...will you be at the firehouse tomorrow night?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 11:11 am: Edit

Almost Melba... I come from the original instead of the South: Pasadena.

...but just Los Angeles County will do. ;)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Melbamoose on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 11:31 am: Edit

Oops, my bad. I understand the need for distinctions. I'm from the actual city of Los Angeles, myself. :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 11:40 am: Edit

As my beautiful girlfriend would say...

It's all good in the hood.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Melbamoose on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 11:51 am: Edit

Word to that.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, March 10, 2000 - 12:05 pm: Edit

OPENING NIGHT FOR BREAK AWAY AT DANCE NORTH COUNTY


$6 at the door
8pm-12 Midnight
ALL AGES


SEE YA THERE

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, March 10, 2000 - 12:06 pm: Edit

Oh ya, it's tonight!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Saturday, March 11, 2000 - 12:01 pm: Edit

First night review.

We had about 40 people, not to bad considering that a lot of our regulars were outa town. There was a lot of beginners, and most of those beginners were from North County. I spoke and danced with several of the girls and they all said that getting down to SD proper was time consuming. I think we just tapped into a rich area of people that want to learn to Lindy, but don't have any where to go! Perhaps that place will be BREAK AWAY at Dance North County. All ages were present, from mid to late teens to late forties. Great mixture of people!!

I just want to thank the regulars that showed up like Charlie, Luis, April, Gene, Susan, Ron, Sarah, Billy, Lonni, Quentin (spell ?), and Emily!! Susan Bondi has been bringing some of her friends that are becoming regulars, good job!

It was good to have the regulars that have dance experience b/c the beginners were watching us all the time. After some songs they even applauded! The music range was pretty diverse. Ron started off the night with some jazzy tunes, bluesy, and jump blues. I followed with some old rock n roll, rockabilly, big band, jazzy, jump blue stuff. Ron has the new Lavay Smith CD that he was gracious enough to share with us, wow!! She's so sultry! For a first night it went quite well!! I hope to get some more beginners there and grow there scene up there. We'll start getting instructors in and shows, and that will pull more people!

Del Bybee Big Band even wants to play there!! They will work off a percentage, which is good.

There were some great follows there that I have never even met, or haven't seen in a while. Thanks goes out to Susan, you picked up the lindy basic so fast!; Darlene,what control and you matched me so well when we danced - guys if you like smooth style hollywood, dance with this lady!!; Felicia (spell?), thanks for the ecouragement and the dances, I hope to see you there again!; Mia, you are an awesome follow were have you been hiding?; Paula, hope to see you out again! and to everyone else a big thanks!!

Next week is the potluck/birthday party bash for Val and Tonya!! We have just found out that Luis will be leaving us for Atlanta on the 15 of April L, we'll miss you good luck!! We should do somethng special for him the weekend before!! April 8

That's all, sorry for the long post.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Thursday, March 16, 2000 - 08:44 am: Edit

We have not had a lot of people sign up to bring a dish of food for this weekend's potluck dinner at DNC. We need people to bring either appetizers or a main dish. It doesn't have to be fancy home cooked stuff, just something to share with everyone. Desserts are taken care of and so are the drinks, plates, forks, etc.

Hope to see all of you there!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 11:35 pm: Edit

Thanks goes out to all that brought food and drinks on Saturday at DNC!!!

We had tons of food left over. The crowd was really diverse in ages and abilities. Thanks to all that came out in support!! There was about 36 people in total. Not a bad crowd at all, the best thing about it was the dancers conversed with each other. Conversations were every where, the dance studio has a lot of space for people to mingle. This event is leading itself into an intimate atmosphere, where people come to talk with there friends and dance. It's a great place to come and dance, practice, socialize, and share with others. It has got a lot of potential!!!

Remember April 1 Reuben Brown is DJing!!!

New flyers will be out outlining April and May's teaching, bands, and events for Break Away . . . stay tuned . . .

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, March 24, 2000 - 08:42 am: Edit

In addition to Reuben Brown DJing on April 1, I just received confirmation on our highlighted instructors.

Minn and Corina from LA are coming down to teach a beginner and intermediate/advanced class, talk about the LA lindy scene, and do a demonstration!!

So since the advertisements are already out about Reuben DJing and the cost of the dance, you guys are going to get a great deal.

$6 for the lesson and dance

The lesson starts at 8 pm, so make sure your there!!!

If you're not familiar with Minn and Corina, they have won many contests - Del Mar Fair sponsored by San Diego Lindy Hop Society for one. They have a LA style all their own, phenomenal dancers!! So come check out Break Away Saturday April 1 for some great dancing and music.

Refreshments and snacks will be provided.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Thursday, March 30, 2000 - 10:29 am: Edit

NEWS

BREAK AWAY


note: all are Saturday events

April 1
Minn and Corina from LA
lesson @ 8pm
Demonstration at 9pm
Reuben Brown DJing from Pasadena
$6 cover

April 8
Lisa Conway and Evan Kennedy from SD
Bal-Swing lesson
8pm
DJ Chris from SD
Luis' going away party - potluck dinner
$6 cover

April 22
Emily Belt from SD
Women's lindy styling based on Lead and Follow
8pm
DJ
$6 cover

April 29
(Instructors not choosen yet)
DJ
$6 cover

May 6
tentatively scheduled
Meeshi from SD
Jazz movement
DJ
$6

More dates to come . . .

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael on Thursday, March 30, 2000 - 12:56 pm: Edit

For folks who haven't seen Minn (Mien? Min? -- help--I've seen it spelled so many different ways!) & Corina dance, they are a treat to behold!

Very classy and elegant Lindy style. Great oh-so-smooth shag and balboa routines! They dress the part to a T.

Even if you don't dance their style, they are worth making the trip to witness a phenomenal couple.

Thumbs up for getting them to come down to San Diego!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lisa Conway on Thursday, March 30, 2000 - 04:59 pm: Edit

Chris -- correction on April 8...Evan is from LA, not SD. I'm still from SD though!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Friday, March 31, 2000 - 10:06 am: Edit

Evan? Teaching Bal? hee, hee

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, April 03, 2000 - 12:03 pm: Edit

I wanted to thank everyone that showed up on Saturday at Break Away at Dance North County.

What a night!!! Minn and Corina were awesome!! I'm so happy they accepted our invitation to come down and teach a lesson, talk about the LA scene, do a demo w/ a snowball! They are really nice people, and mentioned to me that they would love to come back down again. Of course we are going to ask them down again in the Future!! I'll keep you posted!

Reuben did an excellent job DJing. He kept the floor packed and all of his songs were completely danceble!! A lot of vocal tunes and the range was from 120 (Minnie The Moocher) to above 200BPM. Who says you can't dance to late 30's and early 40's swing? We are going to have Reuben DJ once a month at Break Away. As I said before, diversity is important to strengthening our scene.

We had some great dancers from outside SD show up at Break Away this past Saturday!! To name a few: Minn and Corina, Marcus and Baerbl, Justin and Jenn, and several others. Giselle and the Faust's were there as well. We had about 70 people there in total, and the age range was wide. There were some regulars to Dance North County that showed up. They were older, maybe mid fifties and older, and they stayed there until the dance ended. They just watched and were completely amused. They said that it took them back to their youth when they used to dance. That's the beauty of this dance, it connects our generation with other generations.

I had some great dances with Corina, guys you must dance with her if you haven't already!! It was such an honor to dance with such a classy/stylish woman. Amazing swivels and great improv! Always a pleasure to dance with Giselle, another classy woman. And thanks for all the dances with all of the women I danced with, I'd go through them all but I'd never get my work done.

Thanks to everyone that helped to clean up and that volunteered their time to sit at the door. Thanks for all the support, let's keep this venue going!!

Next week we have Lisa Conway (SD) and Evan Kennedy (LA) teaching Bal-swing (Balboa and Swing), 8pm lesson and $6 at the door. Dance North County

Brief history:

Quote:

The history is that "Balboa" was just that...the Balboa basic. This was developed on really crowded dance floors. Most ballrooms during this time did not allow a breakaway, meaning a separation from the partner (as we do in lindy swingout). But, basic Balboa is pretty boring. Therefore, people began spicing it up by adding turns, kicks, tricks, etc. This became Bal Swing and was later combined with Lindy Hop.


Lisa Conway

Hope to see everyone out!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Monday, April 03, 2000 - 05:09 pm: Edit

PS... My comment about Evan was just a joke, in case anyone didn't figure that one out. :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lisa Conway on Monday, April 03, 2000 - 05:16 pm: Edit

haha Chris! Had I known you were going to use that somewhere I would have taken more time to write it! Hope to see you all on Saturday!

Thanks to Reuben for some great music. Looking forward to you coming down more frequently!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 11:34 pm: Edit

BREAK AWAY


CHECK THE CALENDAR FOR NEW EVENTS OR GO HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION.

¯

BREAK AWAY (home page)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, April 10, 2000 - 10:18 am: Edit

I just want to thank all the people that brought food this past weekend, yum!! The brownies were awesome (both types), the vege plate - celery - my fav!

Thanks to all!!!

and to all that showed up!!

On April 22
If anyone has dance videos, bring them!! there is a VCR and tv to watch them on. I brought a vintage video of several clips and 1999 US Open Lindy this past Saturday.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, April 17, 2000 - 10:19 am: Edit

BREAK AWAY

at Dance North County

see calendar for more info:


Saturday April 22
Emily Belt (SD) teaching Lindy styling for lead and follow
8pm $6 at door
DJ

Saturday April 22
Chris and Shana Bowling (SD)
Drops, tricks, and lifts
PARTNER REQUIRED
8pm
DJ

Hope to see you all there!!
$6 at door

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, April 17, 2000 - 11:05 am: Edit

Oops,obviously I wasn't completely awake yet.

CORRECTION Chris and Shana will be teaching Drops, Tricks, and Lifts on Saturday April 29 at 8pm - Dance North County - $6

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dennis Hong on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 - 01:46 pm: Edit

Hello everybody,

When 12:00 AM rolls around this Saturday night/Sunday morning, and the DNC dance is no more, but sadly enough, you're still trying to get that dancing bug out of you, then remember that it's only a short hop to Memories, where I will be DJ battling Reuben Brown into the wee hours of the morning (3:30-4:00-ish), all for a mere 5 bones.

To get to Memories from DNC, take the 5 north for ~60 miles to the 55 north for ~10 miles to the 91 West. Exit at Tustin (first exit) and turn right. Memories will be ~200 feet down on your right.

Hope to see plenty o' San Diegans there!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 - 01:47 pm: Edit

Attention,

BREAK AWAY meeting tonight at the Rocket be there at 8:30pm.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Wednesday, April 19, 2000 - 11:02 pm: Edit

BREAK AWAY


CANCELED FOR THIS WEEKEND, April 22


Due to many conflicts with Easter we have decided to cancel the dance this weekend. Please visit the SwingOrama calender for the rescheduled lesson w/ Emily Belt. Thank you for your understanding.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Friday, April 21, 2000 - 08:42 am: Edit

We would like some feed back from the people that have attended that past few BREAK AWAY dances.

- Please tell us what you like and dislike about it

- Tell us what we can do to improve it

- Give us some names of some instructors that you would like to have

- Has the music been to you liking or disliking, and why

- What can we do to improve the music

We want to provide you with a great night of dancing and learning at BREAK AWAY. There is not many places to dance on the weekend, so please come and support one of the few!! We want this place to succeed, but we need your help.

For more info and schedule please see the SwingOrama calendar.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, April 25, 2000 - 07:33 am: Edit

No feed back? "No news, is good news!"

We are back in effect this weekend!! Sorry for the late cancelation last week. Easter was very hectic for all that help put this on. Just want to remind all of you that BREAK AWAYis open this weekend. Shana and myself will be teaching a drops and tricks class, so grab a partner and head on up!! We've got some really cool stuff for you!!

I know this event conflicts with Meeshi's Champion Ballroom thing, but he gave us the wrong date L. So if your either on your way up to Memories or don't want to share the floor and music with West Coast Dancers, head on up to Dance North County!!!

Be active and support your local dance scene. Class starts at 8pm and cover is $6. There won't be "password," but there will be plenty of entertainment. If you need directions visit the calendar under SwingOrama and hit Break Away, then go to the link. Or go here Break Away

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Tuesday, April 25, 2000 - 01:13 pm: Edit

Drops and tricks? Bring a partner? Tempting as it is, I think I'll pass until Jonah Lomu starts swing dancing.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Thursday, April 27, 2000 - 08:57 am: Edit

Just another reminder to San Diegans about BREAK AWAY this weekend, April 29!! There is a lesson at 8pm of Drops and Tricks (partner required)!! If you want to learn some reallly cool stuff, be there at 8pm!! Cost is only a mere $6 at the door. The music will be DJ'd, and emphasis will be on swing music, no slow West Coast stuff here!!! If you want to get your money's worth of dancing, and not sit out for the uninspirational songs - HEAD UP NORTH TO DANCE NORTH COUNTY!!

For directions go here Break Away schedule, MAP

Hope to see ya there!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Thursday, April 27, 2000 - 09:24 am: Edit

touche!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Saturday, April 29, 2000 - 09:56 am: Edit

Touche nothing!! BREAK AWAY IS NOT HAPPENING TONIGHT(April 29)!! Please make note of this. Dances will resume next weekend with Meeshi instructing a Jazz Movement class.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jane Hance on Saturday, April 29, 2000 - 10:15 am: Edit

So what happened???

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 08:02 am: Edit

Dave, the owner had previously scheduled a WCS dance, and my schedule and his schedule conflicted. We talked about the dance earlier in the week and it didn't dawn on him that he had scheduled another dance for that night. So, I was under the impression that Break Away was being held that night. Simple miscommunication.

May 6 will be BREAK AWAY w/ Meeshi teaching, so come out and support the most decorated swing instructor in SD. Please see the calendar for up coming dates.


Oh yeh, before I forget . . .
Dennis Hong and I are challenging Ron and Cathleen (spell ?) to a DJ battle!!! That's right!! Another battle of the DJ's!! No date is set yet. We'll see if Dennis can hold off Ron again and maybe one of the other two DJ's might take the crown? We'll see, stay tuned for further details, and keep checking that calendar!!


Just for the record: It doesn't make any since to me that at the last DJ battle Dennis won, but doesn't DJ at our local dance spots like The Rocket, The Firehouse, and The Marriot. There might be a personality conflict between people, I don't know, but what I do know is the dancers prefered his music over Ron's and he plays at all our dances. I'm speculating that it has something to do with the people who are in charge of our scene. But aren't we in charge? Something to think about.


To add to the BREAK AWAY news, there will be a jack, jack and jill, jill contest(that's right 4 random dancers together on the floor)and a jack, and jill, jill contest coming up, so keep checking that calendar!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 01:04 pm: Edit

I'm not really that enthusiastic about having another DJ battle, 4-way or 2-way or whatever. For a variety of reasons. I'm content to DJ at the Firehouse every 3 weeks or so, at the Rocket every 4th week and hopefully Cafe Savoy when it opens back up. But thanks anyway!

As for personality conflicts, the only ones I know about are between me and all the people who like to harass, complain about, and flame me on this forum, including Dennis, Reuben, Jake, and Krista. And I have no influence on scheduling DJs. I'm surprised you want to bring up that again in the middle of your post advertising Break Away. I don't think personality conflicts explain any scheduling issues.

And you're continuing veiled references to the people that are "in charge" are annoying and inflaming. Anyone "in charge" has the option to hire me or Dennis or anyone as a DJ, or DJ themselves, and if they DJ themselves they can save money, so I can understand that. You make it sound like being "in charge" is a bad thing. Since the bars aren't making it anymore, anyone who wants to can be "in charge" of any event they want to organize and there are only certain people in this swing scene who have the gumption to do it, and I am grateful for all that do so, namely David & Tammy, Lisa & other SDLHS folks, Meeshi, Emily, Margaret, Shawn, Chris, and Melissa & Valerie. Hurray for the people "in charge"!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 01:05 pm: Edit

And interesting idea about multiple-person Jack & Jill contests, how would they work?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By NancyAnne on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 01:13 pm: Edit

Multiple-Personality Jack & Jill Contest!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 03:31 pm: Edit

Great support Ron!!! Annoying and flaming, what a positive response. All I was stating was that I was wondering why Dennis isn't hired by the people that run some of the local dances. The personality conflicts were not directed to you, I was stating that maybe there were some between Dennis and others. I was also stating that if the majority voted for Dennis then why don't they request to the promoters to have him DJ? That the majority, dancers, make the scene. So just b/c you see your name in a posting doesn't mean you have to defend yourself, and then insult someone at the same time. If you want the truth, you're the cause of all your attacks. I have never had any problem with you, (except the e-mail, which we cleared up). And the DJ battle is to give the local dancers a great dance event, nothing more! But if you don't want to support the scene, then that's your perogative. I was hoping you'd do the battle, b/c the last one was awesome!! Some of the best music came from there that night at the Rocket!! The crowd was large and everyone had a great time!! I would love to do another event that brought energy back to our local scene, just like the exchange but geared towards locals!

I can agree that the people you mentioned (Dennis, Reuben, and Jake) at times have been a little unjust towards you, but Krista I don't think so.

I'd rather carry this conversation via e-mail for obvious reasons, or even better - in person. I'm sure you meant well by your post.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, May 01, 2000 - 04:21 pm: Edit

Chris, my post was primarily to defend those people "in charge" with whom you seem to have a such a problem with. And to state that I don't think that personality conflicts have anything to do with DJ scheduling. You said "and then insult someone at the same time".. Who was it I insulted in my post, Chris, was it you? If so it was unintentional and I apologize. But I had a serious issue with your original wording.

And now your new statement "But if you don't want to support the scene, then that's your perogative." is pretty low. I've done plenty to support the scene, and will continue to do so, but I'm just not interested in another DJ battle at this time. The last one was definitely a high-energy, high attendance event, though, I'll agree.

And I know I bring on my attacks, because I'm often the only one who bothers to respond to some statement I think is wrong, rather than let it lie. And then I become Mr. Lightning Rod for any resulting dissent. I shouldn't have mentioned it again, except that I wanted to point out that I think I'm the one with the personality conflicts out there, not anyone else.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 09:54 am: Edit

First off Ron, you need to get your understanding straight. Why do you have to defend the "in charge" people? I'm not even bagging on them. In the above post I use the word SPECULATE, which does not imply or makes any assumption that I have a problem with the people who lead our scene. I'm simply reflecting on a thought, NOT stating an opinion! I would appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth, yuk!!


Quote:

"But if you don't want to support the scene, then that's your perogative." is pretty low


It's about as low as

Quote:

And you're continuing veiled references to the people that are "in charge" are annoying and inflaming


that you wrote.

Over all, this conversation is pointless and stupid, you simply misunderstood my point. I propose next you misunderstand me or anyone else you know locally, why don't you send an e-mail or talk in person for clarification? You usually see me at least 3 times a week. J

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 11:41 am: Edit

If I misunderstood your point, I'm not the only one. But OK, the next time I misunderstand you, I'll be sure to check first!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dennis Hong on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 11:49 am: Edit

"And I know I bring on my attacks, because I'm often the only one who bothers to respond to some statement I think is wrong, rather than let it lie."

It goes both ways, Ron. Your above statement is the same reason those of us who actually know something about swing music choose to flame you. You become a lightning rod because you bring it upon yourself.

Think of it this way... if you get into a fight with one person, there's something wrong with that person. If you get into a fight with 5 different people, there's probably something wrong with you.

And... here we go again.

-------------------------------------------------

Oh yes, and for the record... Meeshi DID ask me to DJ at the Marriott. But then, it got closed down. He also asked me to DJ at Clayton's. But then, that got closed down. Hmmmm, maybe I'm cursed.

In any case, I never heard back from Margaret about the Rocket.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 12:51 pm: Edit

RE Chris's statement: "I'm speculating that it has something to do with the people who are in charge of our scene. But aren't we in charge?"

No offense to Chris, but I read something negative into this statement, like Ron.

I can see how Ron's rebuttal would put Chris on the defensive. I think clearing these meanings up on the chat room, versus in private email, is a good thing to do, since many may misunderstand a statement just as Ron did. However, Ron, I'd restate the comment in a different manner, and ask Chris if that's what he meant.

Also, Chris' statement: "But if you don't want to support the scene, then that's your perogative"

Chris, do mean to say that if Ron doesn't concede to engaging in another battle, that he is not supporting the scene?

(ps, please read a calm tone into all of this...I'm not trying to flame.. actually just trying to clarify)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By James Moore on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 01:34 pm: Edit

Thanks, Andy.

I feel like responding to Dennis's post, but it's just too depressing.

Everyone - do you realize how awful this conversation sounds to people who don't really try to follow the inner workings of who plays what, where? Any legitimate issues out there are lost under the whining, sniping and insults.

Even talking about who's groping whom on the dance floor is better than this.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By James Moore on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Arrgh. That didn't really come out the way I wanted it to sound.

Please read Andy's post again and ignore mine. He did a better job.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 01:38 pm: Edit

Andy, you are right, that's what I should have done.

Dennis, I thought you promised to not post? I'm so disappointed. Your statement: "...those of us who actually know something about swing music choose to flame you.." is particularly interesting in that I don't recall that in yours and Jake's "F*CK YOU" posts that there was a whole lot of rational discussion about swing music. But you definitely know a lot about big-band era swing music, Dennis, I'll concede you that.

-Lightning Rod Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dennis Hong on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 01:57 pm: Edit

Sorry, James. I wasn't trying to depress anyone (sincerely). As I've said before, I don't have the time or energy to be in constant debate with Ron. I was/am perfectly happy to let bygones be bygones. As far as I am concerned, this forum is his to post whatever crap he wants.

However, when he makes statements that imply that I (or my friends) was the instigator of all the arguments we've had, I am not willing to sit quietly. And I know that sometimes he is actually trying to be witty, but he's such a freaking social retard that when he does try to be witty, he only comes across as an a-hole, sleazebag, or outright dork. At least I know when I'm being mean.

The bottom line is, every time Ron posts something about me or in reference to me, I just want to bash his face in. So Ron, I'm willing to make a deal wtih you. Don't talk about me again on this forum, and I won't ever bash you again. I'll take no response as a "yes."

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Shawn Hanna on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:14 pm: Edit

I think you are all quote: laughable!

J

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:15 pm: Edit

"I'm speculating that it has something to do with the people who are in charge of our scene. But aren't we in charge?"

Speculate:1. To meditate on a subject; reflect.

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I was sharing a thought and the process that followed it. IF The people that are in charge are avoiding the music of some DJ's that the majority wants to hear, then who gives them that right. IF that is the case then the dancers should decide who they want, not the others. This is an example, role playing thing. No opinion there.

"But if you don't want to support the scene, then that's your perogative"

I was surprised and taken back that Ron, the one who's always out in our scene, didn't want to continue his support. That is his prerogative.

prerogative:1. An exclusive right or privilege held by a person or group, especially a hereditary or official right. See synonyms at right.
2. The exclusive right and power to command, decide, rule, or judge: the principal's prerogative to suspend a student.

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It's Ron's right to decide not to do it. Nothing more or less. I wasn't attacking him, or anything of that nature - just stating a fact that he has that power to deny.

It might have sounded bad, and I apologize for that. Writing at work doesn't give time to reread your posting several times before posting.

So I hope that the above clear's up any misunderstandings?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Shawn Hanna on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:25 pm: Edit

laugh·a·ble (lf-bl, läf-)
adj.

Causing or deserving laughter or derision.


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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:29 pm: Edit

John,
I agree totally. This is not good publicity on the net for us. That's why I opted to go through e-mail or in person with Ron, but he didn't listen to me and choose to make it public. This conversation, as I posted before, is pointless and is going nowhere.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Natalie Roy on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Dennis, it does sound like you are happy to let bygones be bygones. If, as, far as you're concerned, this forum is Ron's to post whatever crap he wants, then why do you want to bash his face in every time he posts something about you?

I point out the about above to make a general point directed at the world and his dog: a number of authors of posts that initiate huge flammings then come back and state that they were mis-understood or didn't explain themselves clearly enough.

If a person going to post something that could be (mis)construed as contentious then why not think it through and present it with care.

I understand that the above is just my opinion and therefore no more valid than anyone elses.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Reuben Brown on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:35 pm: Edit

Yes, this discussion makes me laugh.

So, um, how about that club "Break Away?"

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:35 pm: Edit

Chris...I do not think that the fact Ron doesn't want to participate in a DJ Battle means he is discontinuing his support of the scene.

Just like if I didn't want to be in a dance contest. It means nothing more than I don't want to be in a contest. Doesn't mean I don't want to support our scene, doesn't mean I don't like the promoters, doesn't mean I don't like the other contestants, doesn't mean anything except I don't wanna do it. Don't you agree?

If so, why would you say that Ron's declining to be in a contest would mean he is not supporting our scene?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:42 pm: Edit

Dennis, your best bet is just to stay quiet, period, and then you won't post anything that causes people to think any lower of you than they already do. Your wanting to "bash my face in" is an implied threat and a way overreaction to my comments now or in the past.

But I like the insult "dork", though, its kinda cute.

dork

Main Entry: dork
Pronunciation: 'dork
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps alteration of dick
Date: 1967 slang : NERD;

Excerpted from Merriam Webster online. It wasn't in the American Heritage Dictionary, darnit!

-Lightning Rod Ron, or Ron "the dork" Bloom

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:45 pm: Edit

Hey! we all did take-offs of Chris' post at the same time! That's pretty funny!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chris on Tuesday, May 02, 2000 - 02:47 pm: Edit

Ron's quiting the scene? Is this true Ron? I don't think it is, please confirm.

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