Archive through November 30, 2001

SwingOrama Forum: Swing Venues: The Firehouse: Archive through November 30, 2001
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 12:39 pm: Edit

Jeff, if its not outdoors, I wouldn't bother. We have lots of indoor places, the appeal of LbtB is that it is outdoors.

And why would they bring in a floor? Those things cost money, who is going to pay for it? Who is going to assemble it? They don't make enough off of us to pay for that labor. Not to mention that those assembled floors often suck.

I think you're rule should be to have LbtB at the same time every week. If its actively raining at the time, cancel it. Or you could have a LbtB hotline where people could call to check if its been canceled.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Amy (Blueangel) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 01:12 pm: Edit

Jeff
How about having it from 4-7/8ish. Then if people are cold or want to keep dancing they can weather permitting. Also, I've talked with a few people about going down to On Broadway for David Patrone's "show". If people aren't tired from LBTB they can join us.
Thanks again for driving last night!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge (Jeff) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 01:27 pm: Edit

True, we do have lots of places to dance indoors, but not
every Saturday; and I don't believe there is any evening
venue THIS Saturday night for the Rob and Diance workshop.
As I mentioned above, I'm interested in knowing if anything
else is going on. If not, I've love to still have LBtB and provide
some Saturday night dancing. If it's raining I'd like to be able
to move it indoors.

Having it outdoors is part of the appeal, but so is having it at the 5
star "Hilton San Diego Resort". Haven't you seen those beautiful
fire rings around the water-front tables on the patio off the bar?
Or the palm trees gently rustling in the breeze off the illuminated
aqua blue pool, surrounded by lush landscaping; or spoken to
Patrick, Debbie, Mona Lisa, or Fernando in the bar and restaurant
just waiting to make you the drinks of your dreams, and the foods of
your wildest fascinations? Even if you can only afford a diet Coke,
it's still marvelous, Darling!

About the floor and expense thereof. I was concerned about that as
well. But Peter knows he's not paying for a band or DJ. We bring every-
thing, and, hopefully, business into the restaurant and bar as folks
linger and lounge as they look. So we'll just have to see. Lots of
"Suits" to get through. And with a 10% occupancy rate everyone's
a little stressed out. I hope they snap out of it and realize they've
got a great opportunity hear to spice up their restaurant.

If they do allow the indoor thing, Ron, I was considering doing it
only once a month, or when it's raining. What's the diffence whether
people call a hotline or just look at the Swingorama front page and
calendar. I update it every week. My phone number is on my profile
as well as half my posts. If people want to know, it's easy to find out.
It's my belief that more people will show up if I have it when the weather
is most suitable and it's not conflicting with other events, as opposed
to having it at a set time.

In additon, having it a the same time every week doesn't work for me.
I need to keep it flexible to work around Jordan and Jenna, soccer games,
birthday parties, etc.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By pond/pie girl (Heather) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 01:59 pm: Edit

Jeff... it is my opinion that you should do whatever is best for you. You are the one running the show. If it's best indoors bring it in, if weather is as nice as it was last weekend by all means, outdoors. Rain/Shine we're gonna dance somewhere. And the Hilton is quite lovely inside. Just work around your schedule. People who can make it will come... people who cant wont. It's as simple as that.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge (Jeff) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 02:02 pm: Edit

The Rob and Diane workshop doesn't end until 5pm, Amy.
I'd like to have LBtB run from 7 to 11, weather permitting.
I'll post by late Wednesday, or early Thursday, what we're
going to do.

Amy, I HIGHLY recommend the Rob and Diane workshop.
These are some of the best teachers on the planet, and
they're HERE!! A rare opportunity for San Diego, indeed.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ye Dancer (Yedancer) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 04:47 pm: Edit

Jeff, you should get a pager/voicemail with a short message telling the time of LBtB, as well as directions. I'd be willing to help out with the cost and the maintenance; I know you can get a pager for like 50 bucks a year, or something, which is less than 5 bucks a month. And if it would be too much trouble for you to worry about updating it every week (or multiple times weekly) I'd be happy to help out with that. If you did that, it might be easier to publicize LBtB. I know that the DJ for that Rugcutter Swing radio program on Saturdays would probably be willing to advertise for us. She once told me that she would advertise for free any time. Let me know if you're interested in doing something like that. Or is this just a dumb idea?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge (Jeff) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 06:05 pm: Edit

I like the idea of letting the Rugcutter DJ know about the schedule.
You could be in charge of getting that info to them. As far as the pager
goes, I'm happy to speak with people directly. So my cell number is fine.
You can also give that to the Rugcutter Swing Radio program.

Good ideas.

Thanks.

Jeff 619.339.7117

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ye Dancer (Yedancer) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 04:19 pm: Edit

I'll try to get that number Jeff. Her show is on saturday mornings, from 10-12 I think.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge (Jeff) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 07:13 pm: Edit

Great! Thanks...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Steve (Stevek) on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 10:03 am: Edit

Hey all, I wanted to take this opportunity to say thanks to everyone who was involved in my first ever birthday jam last night. I never thought I'd get that much recognition! An extra special thanks goes out to all of people who I danced with in the circle:

Susan (who was one of the first people who I befriended and if it wasn't for her, I don't think I'd be dancing today)

Shawna (who already made my night get off to a great start by patiently waiting for me to tie my shoes for my first dance of the night)

Shauna (whom I'm glad could show up after her vacation and her injuries)

Karina (thanks Charlie for "encouraging" her to join the circle)

Vikki (nice to have inside jokes that even Charlie isn't aware of)

Tertia (thanks for the dance, "homie")

Zana (such an amazing addition to San Diego's follows)

Emily (don't know if I can ever get over my nervousness of dancing with someone who used to dance with Frankie Manning ;p )

Bambi (we both started dancing at the same time and the same studio)

Lowe(sp?) (who should be coming out dancing more often)

Lisa (sorry for not dancing a full song with you)

Tan (for making a fool out of me)

My apologies if I forgot some names, but there was so much going on. Once again, my thanks goes out to each and every one of you for accepting me in the Lindy scene.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Eldridge (Jeff) on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 11:36 am: Edit

Steve, you're making me "vaclempt" (*sniff*, *sniff*).

The general consensus, especially among the Follows,
is that "YOU ROCK"!!!

"I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!!"

I'm so bummed I didn't arrive until almost 11:30, so I missed
your b-day jam. Congrats on dancing with so many amazing
dancers. Is life good, or what?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 04:51 pm: Edit

That was a fun night at the Firehouse last night. I haven't been going out as much these days, on days that I'm not DJing, but I'm sure glad I went last night! Good crowd, good energy!

It was Meeshi's night to DJ, but he often gets people to split the night with him, last night it was Gabe. Both Meeshi and Gabe played lots of great stuff. Was it actually Gabe that played Ray Charles, and Eva Cassidy's Wade in the Water? Shocking. I'm going to have to play Carioca, Clap Hands, and fast songs from Wicked Swing someday, and the identity reversal will be complete. Seriously, he mixed it up well.

I had excellent dances with Jennifer, Susan Bird, Joanna, Zana and others. My first dance with Zana, and a what a great dancer she is. Not to mention how all us guys were at the side bemoaning the fact that she is married. Let no one claim that HW/LA/DC/etc stylers don't play after dancing/watching her!

Fun birthday jam by Charlie--leave it to Charlie to do various cartwheels and stuff. And the swing Rueda led by Firemark was a kick. A good night!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Twirly (Twirly) on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 05:19 pm: Edit

Yes, great night! I haven't had that much fun out dancing in a loooong time. I don't know whether there weren't as many follows out last night, or all the leads showed up in force, but I don't think I sat out a whole song the entire night. I really liked the music mix too, it made me feel some of the "mojo" that's been missing in my dancing lately.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Nachoman (Nachoman) on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 04:43 pm: Edit

I agree, i thought the music selection was superb, a nice blend of different types of songs, i hope other dj's (no one in particular, just dj's in general) would take note and play a similar mix.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 03:17 pm: Edit

I'm DJing tonight at the Firehouse. Come on out!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 03:42 pm: Edit

Also, in two weeks, Thursday the 29th, Meeshi and I will be doing a special event:
Count Basie DJ Battle!

That's right, Meeshi and I will be playing our favorite Basie songs, all night long! Between our collections we can definitely play a night of Count Basie songs and keep it varied and interesting enough for you to dance to all night long. There will be many of the songs you are used to dancing to, as well as new ones you probably have never danced to before.

I just recently got a new live Basie, Breakfast Dance and Barbeque, and it is awesome. I featured on my website, and I'm been saving the songs for the DJ Battle. I also recently picked up the Best of Early Basie, which has a bunch of great 30's Basie tunes for those who like their music fast and classic.

The night is for songs played by Basie's band, while he led it. The songs don't have to be Basie originals.

So you'll hear:
o Fast classic early Basie
o Awesome jazz standards from Basie and Ella Fitzgerald
o Great blues vocals from Basie and Joe Williams
o Incredible late 50's Basie from his Atomic Swing/Complete Atomic Basie/Breakfast Dance & Barbeque era
o Small group Basie
o Lots more

You'll definitely hear songs like "Splanky", "Shiny Stockings", and "Easy Does It", all Basie standards.

I have 15 or so Basie CDs, and god knows how many Meeshi has, so we have plenty to choose from.

I'll probably make a couple of CDs to give away, too.

It should be a fun night. I hope to see a big crowd there!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 03:47 pm: Edit

Info on Basie from All Music Guide:
(its long)

Count Basie was among the most important bandleaders of the swing era. With the exception of a brief period in the early '50s, he led a big band from 1935 until his death almost 50 years later, and the band continued to perform after he died. Basie's orchestra was characterized by a light, swinging rhythm section that he led from the piano, lively ensemble work, and generous soloing. Basie was not a composer like Duke Ellington or an important soloist like Benny Goodman. His instrument was his band, which was considered the epitome of swing and became broadly influential on jazz.
Both of Basie's parents were musicians; his father, Harvie Basie, played the mellophone, and his mother, Lillian (Childs) Basie, was a pianist who gave her son his earliest lessons. Basie also learned from Harlem stride pianists, particularly Fats Waller. His first professional work came accompanying vaudeville performers, and he was part of a troupe that broke up in Kansas City in 1927, leaving him stranded there. He stayed in the Midwestern city, at first working in a silent movie house and then joining Walter Page's Blue Devils in July 1928. The band's vocalist was Jimmy Rushing. Basie left in early 1929 to play with other bands, eventually settling into one led by Bennie Moten. Upon Moten's untimely death on April 2, 1935, Basie worked as a soloist before leading a band initially called the Barons of Rhythm. Many former members of the Moten band joined this nine-piece outfit, among them Walter Page (bass), Freddie Green (guitar), Jo Jones (drums), and Lester Young (tenor saxophone). Jimmy Rushing became the singer. The band gained a residency at the Reno Club in Kansas City and began broadcasting on the radio, an announcer dubbing the pianist "Count" Basie.

Basie got his big break when one of his broadcasts was heard by journalist and record producer John Hammond, who touted him to agents and record companies. As a result, the band was able to leave Kansas City in the fall of 1936 and take up an engagement at the Grand Terrace in Chicago, followed by a date in Buffalo, NY, before coming into Roseland in New York City in December. It made its recording debut on Decca Records in January 1937. Undergoing expansion and personnel changes, it returned to Chicago, then to the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Boston. Meanwhile, its recording of "One O'Clock Jump" became its first chart entry in September 1937. The tune became the band's theme song and it was later inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.

Basie returned to New York for an extended engagement at the small club the Famous Door in 1938 that really established the band as a success. "Stop Beatin' Round the Mulberry Bush," with Rushing on vocals, became a Top Ten hit in the fall of 1938. Basie spent the first half of 1939 in Chicago, meanwhile switching from Decca to Columbia Records, then went to the West Coast in the fall. He spent the early '40s touring extensively, but after the U.S. entry into World War II in December 1941 and the onset of the recording ban in August 1942, His travel was restricted. While on the West Coast, he and the band appeared in five films, all released within a matter of months in 1943: Hit Parade of 1943, Reveille with Beverly, Stage Door Canteen, Top Man, and Crazy House. He also scored a series of Top Ten hits on the pop and R&B charts, including "I Didn't Know About You" (pop, winter 1945); "Red Bank Blues" (R&B, winter 1945); "Rusty Dusty Blues" (R&B, spring 1945); "Jimmy's Blues" (pop and R&B, summer/fall 1945); and "Blue Skies" (pop, summer 1946). Switching to RCA Victor Records, he topped the charts in February 1947 with "Open the Door, Richard!," followed by three more Top Ten pop hits in 1947: "Free Eats," "One O'Clock Boogie," and "I Ain't Mad at You (You Ain't Mad at Me)."

The big bands' decline in popularity in the late '40s hit Basie as it did his peers, and he broke up his orchestra at the end of the decade, opting to lead smaller units for the next couple of years. But he was able to reform the big band in 1952, responding to increased opportunities for touring. For example, he went overseas for the first time to play in Scandinavia in 1954, and thereafter international touring played a large part in his schedule. An important addition to the band in late 1954 was vocalist Joe Williams. The orchestra was re-established commercially by the 1955 album Count Basie Swings - Joe Williams Sings (released on Clef Records), particularly by the single "Every Day (I Have the Blues)," which reached the Top Five of the R&B charts and was later inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. Another key recording of this period was an instrumental reading of "April in Paris" that made the pop Top 40 and the R&B Top Ten in early 1956; it also was enshrined in the Grammy Hall of Fame. These hits made what Albert Murray (co-author of Basie's autobiography, Good Morning Blues) called the "new testament" edition of the Basie band a major success. Williams remained with Basie until 1960, and even after his departure, the band continued to prosper.

At the first Grammy Awards ceremony, Basie won the 1958 awards for Best Performance by a Dance Band and Best Jazz Performance, Group, for his Roulette Records LP Basie. Breakfast Dance and Barbecue was nominated in the dance band category for 1959, and Basie won in the category in 1960 for Dance with Basie, earning nominations the same year for Best Performance by an Orchestra and Best Jazz Performance, Large Group, for The Count Basie Story. There were further nominations for best jazz performance for Basie at Birdland in 1961 and The Legend in 1962. None of these albums attracted much commercial attention, however, and in 1962, Basie switched to Frank Sinatra's Reprise Records in a bid to sell more records. Sinatra-Basie satisfied that desire, reaching the Top Five in early 1963. It was followed by This Time by Basie! Hits of the 50's and 60's, which reached the Top 20 and won the 1963 Grammy Award for Best Performance by an Orchestra for Dancing.

This initiated a period largely deplored by jazz fans that ran through the rest of the 1960s, when Basie teamed with various vocalists for a series of chart albums including Ella Fitzgerald (Ella and Basie!, 1963); Sinatra again (the Top 20 album It Might as Well Be Swing, 1964); Sammy Davis, Jr. (Our Shining Hour, 1965); the Mills Brothers (The Board of Directors, 1968); and Jackie Wilson (Manufacturers of Soul, 1968). He also reached the charts with an album of show tunes, Broadway Basie's ... Way (1966).

By the end of the 1960s, Basie had returned to more of a jazz format. His album Standing Ovation earned a 1969 Grammy nomination for Best Instrumental Jazz Performance by a Large Group or Soloist with Large Group (Eight or More), and in 1970, with Oliver Nelson as arranger/conductor, he recorded Afrique, an experimental, avant-garde album that earned a 1971 Grammy nomination for Best Jazz Performance by a Big Band. By this time, the band performed largely on the jazz festival circuit and on cruise ships. In the early 1970s, after a series of short-term affiliations, Basie signed to Pablo Records, with which he recorded for the rest of his life. Pablo recorded Basie prolifically in a variety of settings, resulting in a series of well-received albums: Basie Jam earned a 1975 Grammy nomination for Best Jazz Performance by a Group; Basie and Zoot was nominated in the same category in 1976 and won the Grammy for Best Jazz Performance by a Soloist; Prime Time won the 1977 Grammy for Best Jazz Performance by a Big Band; and The Gifted Ones by Basie and Dizzy Gillespie was nominated for a 1979 Grammy for Best Jazz Instrumental Performance by a Group. Thereafter, Basie competed in the category of Best Jazz Instrumental Performance by a Big Band, winning the Grammy in 1980 for On the Road and in 1982 for Warm Breeze, earning a nomination for Farmer's Market Barbecue in 1983, and winning a final time, for his ninth career Grammy, in 1984 for 88 Basie Street.

Basie's health gradually deteriorated during the last eight years of his life. He suffered a heart attack in 1976 that put him out of commission for several months. He was back in the hospital in 1981, and when he returned to action, he was driving an electric wheel chair onto the stage. He died of cancer at 79.

Count Basie was admired as much by musicians as by listeners, and he displayed a remarkable consistency in a bandleading career that lasted long after swing became an archival style of music. After his death, his was one of the livelier ghost bands, led in turn by Thad Jones, Frank Foster, and Grover Mitchell. His lengthy career resulted in a large discography spread across all of the major labels and quite a few minor ones as well. — William Ruhlmann

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 03:52 pm: Edit

Other great Basie songs you'll probably hear:
o All Right, OK, You Win (with Joe Williams)
o Everyday I have the Blues (with Joe Williams)
o One O'Clock Jump
o I'm Beginning to See the Light (with Ella)
o Jumpin at the Woodside

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 01:18 pm: Edit

No firehouse this Thursday, even tho the Swingorama calendar says there in. Get your fix at Neimans Monday, or the Rocket Tuesday, which is open, even tho the calendar doesn't say it is!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Shawn (Adminorama) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 07:49 pm: Edit

The Rocket entry expired (and is now fixed) and Meeshi is supposed to update the Firehouse entry...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Cari Spotts (Carismiles) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 11:52 am: Edit

I can't wait for the Basie Battle. I'm really excited to hear what you guys cook up. Will tomorrow ever come?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron (Ron) on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 11:58 am: Edit

Tonight is the Count Basie DJ battle! DJ Meeshi and DJ Ron seeing who can play the best Basie tunes, from 9:30 to midnight.

I went through the Basie songs I already had on my hard drive and I added a few, and discovered I had about 180 minutes of good Basie tunes, so I could do a Basie night on my own! But it'll be fun to trade off blocks of Basie with Meeshi and see what we each pick as the best Basie to dance to. We both have CDs that the other doesn't have, and I have a couple of new CDs to play from that I've been saving for this night, including my new favorite live Basie, Breakfast Dance and Barbecue, which is featured on my reviews page. So it should be a fun night!

Sounds like Peter and Maggie will be there, too.

And we'll be doing a birthday dance for Jennifer Warren.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Meeshi (Meeshi) on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 04:17 pm: Edit

Hey Ron, as you know, my CD collection is in a constant state of "random shuffle." But I went through my whole collection to pick out the Basie CDs and found 30! Wow, and I know I haven't bought a Basie CD in over a year! My only concern is that Basie tended to record the same songs over and over, so multiple versions of a song are bound to occur tonight. Oh well, we'll try our best not to repeat ourselves. I look forward to tonight, especially pulling out some old-school, rippin' fast Basie every once in awhile. It should be fun, although it won't please everyone...oh well!

See y'all tonight!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By HopMichael (Mhwang) on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 12:56 am: Edit

Hey, that was a great night of music!

I have to admit I was a little afraid it would get monotonous, but between the two of you, you played the whole gamut of Basie from the 30's to the 60's (?). From uptempo big band stuff to small sessions with Oscar Peterson. Great job, Ron and Meeshi!

And the added treat of having Peter and Maggie dance was sweet!

-Hop "Red Bank, NJ" Michael

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Amy (Blueangel) on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 11:19 am: Edit

I second the motion of the great night of music! Wow, I was so eager to dance, and the music was spinning so well that when it was all over, I was beat.

Thanks Ron and Meeshi! You two surprised me and others with a wonderful mix - you could definitely tell it was dancable when the floor always seemed to full. Since I hadn't been out in a few weeks, it was a delightful time to dance with some leads I've not seen for a while. (and quite comical that the mirrors were fogging up)

Great idea to do an all-nighter of Basie - maybe an idea to try out with a different artist in another few months. (don't want to wear out the style/format)

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