     By Reuben Brown (Gurureuben) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:59 am: Edit |
...besides, it's held at a Coffee Shop. Why even bring up booze when it's not even served? I'll be on the mic this Friday going: "Someone buy me a fruit smoothie!" You want honest, bold and straight forward? "Real Men Dance" Period. |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:20 am: Edit |
I think you all are reading way too much into the slogan...Taking it a little too personally. The slogan should match the place, and I think it does. The place does not serve alcohol. That, inevitably, will be a turn-off to some and a turn-on to others. The slogan is just poking fun at that a little. It does NOT say, "Real men don't dance drunk!!" It does say, "Cafe Savoy, where real men don't dance drunk!!" (That is an entirely true statement because you can't get drunk where they don't serve alcohol.) Even the late, great Lindy Hoppers, who drank by the gallon, would not be able to drink at cafe savoy... |
| By Naked and reeking with panda love (Dennis) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:24 am: Edit |
Damn, I guess my secret is out. Now everyone knows I'm not a real man. Speaking of which, has anyone seen my prosthetic penis? I must have misplaced it in my drunken stupor the last I went out dancing.... |
| By Naked and reeking with panda love (Dennis) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:28 am: Edit |
That is an entirely true statement because you can't get drunk where they don't serve alcohol. Absolutely. The place doesn't serve alcohol. Hence, everyone inside MUST be sober. Quick show of hands: who here has danced drunk at the Firehouse or Clayton's? Keeping in mind, of course, that neither place serves/served alcohol.... |
| By Reuben Brown (Gurureuben) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:39 am: Edit |
::bold face lie:: I've never danced drunk at a venue that didn't serve alcohol. ::end bold face lie:: |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:49 am: Edit |
The Firehouse is completely different because it doesn't serve anything... People bring drinks into Cafe Savoy and it takes away their business. (It's like bringing a steak dinner into a restaurant.) |
| By Lisa Conway (Lisaconway) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:44 pm: Edit |
I'm pretty sure most people who drink know that they can't bring drinks into a restaurant that doesn't serve alcohol. We may have "bad" habits, but we aren't stupid. I think it's much more likely that a dancer will bring in their own water or food, thus killing the venue's business. In fact, I have seen many dancers do just this. Should the motto actually be "Real Dancers Buy Something From The Venue"? |
| By UCSDavid (Tearshedding) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:58 pm: Edit |
i like that latest motto... then again, i'm also poor |
| By Ron (Ron) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 02:49 pm: Edit |
What Lisa said. |
| By Lisa Conway (Lisaconway) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 02:54 pm: Edit |
haha! Me and Ron agreed on something! The world must be coming to an end. Krista quick, start the ambulance engine cause I'm gonna have a heart attack! haha |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:13 pm: Edit |
Dude! What have I started? I'm coming Lisa, this is a cold day in hell!! Jeremy, your first statement that you are targeting SDSU kids really shows how bad you know your demographics. I think you'd be hurting yourself to try and appeal to the state kids with a sober slogan. No one is going to expect alcohol from a cafe in the first place, so I don't even know why it has to be stressed. I mean, it is your deal and you guys are obviously allowed to advertise any way you want, but I agree with Lisa when she said this is an exclusionary statement. Personally, I feel it excludes me, and unless you are straight edge, you aren't welcome to even dance at Cafe Savoy. Jeremy said swing dancing is different when it comes to dance clubs and alcohol. I think everyone can agree that the swing scene in SD used to be a LOT bigger when there were alcohol serving establishments hosting swing nights. I'm not advocating everyone get drunk and dance. But that slogan is really lame. I've been at the firehouse and cafe savoy(downtown) drunk. No one is going to be able to control what people do on their own time outside the venue, be it drinking, bringing in your own food, smoking crack, worshipping satan, whatever. That's what I think. Krista |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:35 pm: Edit |
"I think everyone can agree that the swing scene in SD used to be a LOT bigger when there were alcohol serving establishments hosting swing nights." I don't agree. Everyone knows that the alcohol serving establishments closed their swing nights because swing dancers as a whole do not support the bar enough. (And the craze died out!) There still is Tio Leo's, but no one really goes there. In New York they say their venues change all the time because the bar's change their swing nights for karaoke or something... I think you have a faulty argument there. Sorry. |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:47 pm: Edit |
"I think you have a faulty argument there. Sorry." How? The scene wasn't bigger when there were bars having swing nights? I could have sworn it was. Which was why it sucked ass to be under 21 and a dancer in SD. They closed, yeah...I am not talking about that. I'm talking about when they were OPEN. And don't be sorry. Krista |
| By Lisa Conway (Lisaconway) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:52 pm: Edit |
Dude, you weren't even around then. Let me speak from experience...there were more people going out when there was alcohol at events. In fact, off the top of my head, I can think of 20-30 people who don't go out anymore cause they don't like the idea of being persecuted because they enjoy having a cocktail and a little fun. I have been given the evil eye on many occasions because I've had a drink or two. That definitely doesn't make ME feel welcome and has been one of the main reasons why I've stopped coming out. I believe it's the persecution that drives people away more than anything else. It really seems like this scene would rather dictate morals rather than let people do what they want to do...it gets old really fast. Stop the preaching and let people live their lives the way they want to live them! |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
word |
| By Lisa Conway (Lisaconway) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
And actually, a lot of people still go to Tio Leo's. They're just not non-drinking, preachy lindy hoppers. |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:01 pm: Edit |
What? Who's preaching? I never said that drinking was wrong. I was talking about a slogan for the cafe savoy, and the fact that the scene being bigger had nothing to do with the venues...Venues have more to do with the size of the scene. Don't get touchy. I'm not a minister. And I went to Tio Leo's twice in the last couple months...I think I brought the attendance up to 8 or 9. |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:02 pm: Edit |
And obviously you don't know me if you think I'd dictate morality... |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:05 pm: Edit |
"I was talking about a slogan for the cafe savoy, and the fact that the scene being bigger had nothing to do with the venues...Venues have more to do with the scene being bigger or smaller. " How is that not the same thing? There are more venues when it is bigger. When it was bigger, those venues were BARS. |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:07 pm: Edit |
except the most popular venue in late-great SD: The Rocket. |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:11 pm: Edit |
yeah, but that's just one of many venues that used to have swing nights. If it wasn't for the Rocket....I wouldn't have ever danced socially. |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:16 pm: Edit |
Venue-Chicken/Scene-Egg Hmmmm... |
| By Random (Chance) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:16 pm: Edit |
I wouldn't have either actually... |
| By Spawn of Satan (Melbamoose) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:22 pm: Edit |
either what? |
| By Reuben Brown (Gurureuben) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:27 pm: Edit |
I just thought of another motto for Cafe Savoy: "Where men don't dance drunk!!!" Just drop the word "real" and you have a less distastful motto while still getting the apparent intended point accoss, which is... I'm guessing here... that the place is booze free. |
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